strange symptoms. am i gonna die?b

Every steroid will thicken blood. It's not uncommon for Deca to cause some fatigue in it's early stages. The possibilities are endless. I wouldn't worry too much until you find out what blood work you can get.

Cheers mate. Last question. The 3-4weeks I came off cycle how come I felt so much better? Is it becasuse my body needed the rest and that's a sign my body wants to restore to hoemastasis?
 
Cheers mate. Last question. The 3-4weeks I came off cycle how come I felt so much better? Is it becasuse my body needed the rest and that's a sign my body wants to restore to hoemastasis?

Hormones not fluctuating like they did before, likely a cycle that wasn't monitored and/or handled properly. They get better with experience.
 
Hormones not fluctuating like they did before, likely a cycle that wasn't monitored and/or handled properly. They get better with experience.

perhaps, I mean I felt so good that ater even being on for a year I wasn't evne gonna bother doing a post cycle therapy (pct) because I felt that good. Even tho I was still gonna, I have no other way to describe how I felt other than I felt like I didn't even needa do a post cycle therapy (pct). Felt amazing. Also mate ive changed my macros and diet around. Is 3600calories good. Im a bit over 100kg. Bodyfat still between 14-16%

415 carbs
dropped protein from 350 to 300
fats at 85grams.
3600calories.

or can drop it to 3400calories and do
290 protein
70fat
400carbs.

Just the other diet I added in 100grams of chicken thigh coz its so tasty :P.
 
YOu just contradicted yourself. Earlier you said you felt better OFF cycle, now you say you felt good ON cycle? Which one is it, toco?
 
YOu just contradicted yourself. Earlier you said you felt better OFF cycle, now you say you felt good ON cycle? Which one is it, toco?

I meant, When I came off the test/deca cycle after 3 weeks in, I started feeling good after a couple weeks, I was saying I felt so good that If I was to continue feeling this way/stay off long enuf that I wouldn't even bother doing a pct because I felt that good.
 
YOu just contradicted yourself. Earlier you said you felt better OFF cycle, now you say you felt good ON cycle? Which one is it, toco?

sorry mate, where did I say that I musta messed something up. I felt good the 4 weeks off cycle I meant to say I felt that good and happy that I wasn't even gonna bother with pct because I felt I didn't need it.
that's all I meant mate.
 
Hmmm. Looking back, perhaps I misunderstood. Sorry :)

no problems mate. I apologise myself sometimes its hard to express what I mean over the internet lol.

What do u think of the diet. Im trying to pack on as much size as possible before I shred/maintain for a good year or so. So ive got a little while left of this cycle/bulk then ima just maintain and turn my priorities to other things. Life changes I guess.
 
I thought I posted in your diet thread already.

sorry mate u must have. Couldn't remember....

Hey just out of curiousity why is primo so expensive? Not discussing prices but for a 20 week cycle at about 1gram per week it would cost around the same as a second hand car lol.
 
sorry mate u must have. Couldn't remember....

Hey just out of curiousity why is primo so expensive? Not discussing prices but for a 20 week cycle at about 1gram per week it would cost around the same as a second hand car lol.


Manufacturing, powder vulnerability, more ingredients required to suspend properly, etc...
 
Manufacturing, powder vulnerability, more ingredients required to suspend properly, etc...

I saw on ur log on AR forums that u used it for 20 weeks at 1050mg per week. Did u enjoy it? what gains did u get out of it? IN ur opinion is it a better steroid than deca? similar gains?
less side effects? Becase ive always wanted to try it. Perhaps ill drop the deca and try primo instead. Altho id probably only be able to afford 500mg per week tbh.
 
I saw on ur log on AR forums that u used it for 20 weeks at 1050mg per week. Did u enjoy it? what gains did u get out of it? IN ur opinion is it a better steroid than deca? similar gains?
less side effects? Becase ive always wanted to try it. Perhaps ill drop the deca and try primo instead. Altho id probably only be able to afford 500mg per week tbh.

It was 26 weeks total, not 20. It was great, but very overwhelming. Won't do it again.

Primo and deca are not comparable, not even remotely close. I can't compare them.
 
It was 26 weeks total, not 20. It was great, but very overwhelming. Won't do it again.

Primo and deca are not comparable, not even remotely close. I can't compare them.

what do u prefer deca or primo? why wouldn't u do It again? what cant be compared about them?
 
what do u prefer deca or primo? why wouldn't u do It again? what cant be compared about them?

Well it wasn't just Primo, It was Test/Primo/Tren/Mast/Var. Just too many injections for too long. 25 to 30 CC's per week. It takes its toll on you after a while. By the 5th month I was worn out an still had over a month to go.

I like them both. Like I said, I cannot compare them. It's like comparing a banana and a pickup truck. I run Deca year round because it helps with my joints. Cycling deca puts on more size than most other compounds for me. My physique changes on primo and I look my best with it in my system.
 
hey austenite, wow long cycle bro lol, fuck lot of oil per week. were u using 10cc syringes, here in aus we can get 3ml 5ml or 10ml Ive been using 5ml myself recently because I have to pin between 4-5ml of oil into my quad including vit b12. No problems tho, not even sore or anything, doesn't even hurt and I use a 25gauge.


Anyways mate, I felt very good yesterday, went shopping mwith the missus and felt great, now this morning back to feeling tired/bloated really need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and prami. Im ordering it today. altho I do believe its my sleep making me feel a little crappy. I had a sleeping test done and it came back with mild sleep apnea so im trialing a cpap machine today, but anything other that melatonin you can suggest to help deep sleep/refreshing sleep? Melatonin did jack shit for me.
 
hey austenite, wow long cycle bro lol, fuck lot of oil per week. were u using 10cc syringes, here in aus we can get 3ml 5ml or 10ml Ive been using 5ml myself recently because I have to pin between 4-5ml of oil into my quad including vit b12. No problems tho, not even sore or anything, doesn't even hurt and I use a 25gauge.


Anyways mate, I felt very good yesterday, went shopping mwith the missus and felt great, now this morning back to feeling tired/bloated really need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and prami. Im ordering it today. altho I do believe its my sleep making me feel a little crappy. I had a sleeping test done and it came back with mild sleep apnea so im trialing a cpap machine today, but anything other that melatonin you can suggest to help deep sleep/refreshing sleep? Melatonin did jack shit for me.

No, just standard 3CC barrels. Multiple injections per day.

Do you have sleep apnea?
 
No, just standard 3CC barrels. Multiple injections per day.

Do you have sleep apnea?

Well according to my sleep study, which I honestly don't believe was very accurate because I kept waking up 3-4x because of all the fucking cables I have a small case of sleep apnea but the doc thinks even tho its not MAJOR and may not warrant the use of a mask he claims he may think im in a small percentage of super sensitive people whos tests come back with only a few problems nothing major. he has still allowed to me trial the mask and I will b getting that today.! I feel very groggy when I wake up in the morning and feel groggy now as I just woke up. ive had a solid 8 plus hours of sleep. Maybe its the extra weight im carrying but even when I was lighter and leaner it was still happening.
 
Interesting. Sleep apnea is associated with fatigue. Weight too, of course.

well I can definitely say I did encounter some fatigue on and off. Im going to try the machine anyway and see how it goes! but any other things u can recommend for a nice refresing deep sleep? OTC or prescription?
 
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