Subcutaneous test yes no maybe so

[bushleaguechew]

Does anyone have any info on doing test subq?

1) testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) only or cycle worthy
2) I've read Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is not necessary is this true?
3) is regular prop,cyp,enth in oil suitable? Or only tne in water


Any personal experience?

 

[enzo321]

Are you asking which is optimal, or "Is it ok to inject in the fat?".

 

[DexterMorgan]

Some people can get away on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doing subq injections.
Exogenous Test aromatizes, so yes you need AI.
Subq injections on cycle will give you temporary hard lumps.

 

[Austinite]

TRT only is generally when SubQ injections are fine. The key is volume. If your protocol requires more than 0.6ml in volume, it is likely that the subQ injection spot may leave a hardened spot that is uncomfortable to the touch. This is generally not the case with intramuscular injections. Any volume 0.6ml or less should be just fine injected subcutaneously.

Any compound is suitable for SubQ. This method results in slower absorptions and has less of an impact on E2.

 

[imdennis]

TRT only is generally when SubQ injections are fine. The key is volume. If your protocol requires more than 0.6ml in volume, it is likely that the subQ injection spot may leave a hardened spot that is uncomfortable to the touch. This is generally not the case with intramuscular injections. Any volume 0.6ml or less should be just fine injected subcutaneously.

Any compound is suitable for SubQ. This method results in slower absorptions and has less of an impact on E2.

so lets say you bout 2ml a week sub q, you spread it over 4 injectins sub q, would it have much less of an impact on e2?

 

[Austinite]

so lets say you bout 2ml a week sub q, you spread it over 4 injectins sub q, would it have much less of an impact on e2?

Yes.

 

[imdennis]

Yes.

so how come no ones preaching that method o.o, shouldn't everyone be doign that? if you pin ed .6cc that gives you 4.2cc which is a bit over a gram of gear a week, less impact on e2.. but i guess its a hassle right ?

 

[Austinite]

so how come no ones preaching that method o.o, shouldn't everyone be doign that? if you pin ed .6cc that gives you 4.2cc which is a bit over a gram of gear a week, less impact on e2.. but i guess its a hassle right ?

Well, this is very well known among the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) community. Because many steroid forums such as this one have a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section, the information slowly leaks out to Cyclers. However, no matter how you look at it, 4 injections in one day is simply inconvenient for most. SubQ is not practical for cycling.

 

[bushleaguechew]

So the limiting factor is volume?

 

[Austinite]

Correct.

 

[bushleaguechew]

Well I currently do .8ml twice a week. So I could potentially do .4 ml four times a week and be okay? With a much more stable serum level and much less sore glutes?

 

[Austinite]

Well I currently do .8ml twice a week. So I could potentially do .4 ml four times a week and be okay? With a much more stable serum level and much less sore glutes?

Well it would absorb slower and impact E2 less. Stability is not a factor, however. Stability has more to do with the evenness of your injection frequencies.

 

[halfwit]

Well I currently do .8ml twice a week. So I could potentially do .4 ml four times a week and be okay? With a much more stable serum level and much less sore glutes?

Yes, but you should be rotating to more than just your glutes anyway. As someone that does use a subQ med, I can tell you that the lumps are a pain in the ass when they can (and DO) form.

 

[Dr.V.P.C.]

In my personal experience

1) testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) only or cycle worthy : BOTH FOR ME.

2) I've read Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is not necessary is this true? NO, BUT IMO THE RATE OF AROMATIZATION WITH SC IS LOWER, (I DID BLOOD WORK EACH 2 WEEKS)

3) is regular prop,cyp,enth in oil suitable? Or only tne in water. I DID CYP, DECA, TREN ACE, BOLD. MUCH LESS PAINFUL AND EASIER THAN IM. YES , SOME SUBCUTANEOUS SWELLING AND INFLAMATION MAY OCCOUR , BUT IF YOU KEEP SHOTS UNDER 1CC/ML , NO BIG ISSUE . MULTIPLE SC SHOTS FOR ME IS MORE CONVENIENT THAN BIGGER VOLUME IM SHOT .

 

[gaintothemax]

SubQ just doesn't sound right I've heard of subQ with peps, and hgh but never oils. I'd go with what has worked and thats IM.

 

[enzo321]

SubQ just doesn't sound right I've heard of subQ with peps, and hgh but never oils. I'd go with what has worked and thats IM.

Some doctor recommend subq to avoid multiple holes into the body via syringes.

 

[Austinite]

SubQ just doesn't sound right I've heard of subQ with peps, and hgh but never oils. I'd go with what has worked and thats IM.

What you inject is not relevant. What doesnt sound right? It all gets absorbed into the bloodstream, the only difference is the rate of speed at which an inta-X injection absorbs. The only issue is discomfort from volume. Almost every country has tested and implemented this method for therapy as it results in a better absorption rate and has much less impact on estrogen conversion.