Successful TRT story! (Thanks IMT)

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bbbjames

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So a while back I finally reached out to IMT because of my T levels and the recommendations from this forum. I had all the terrible side effects like low libido, lack of motivation, always being tired, very small gains in the gym (5-6 days a week), etc. After reaching out to IMT and discovering I was a candidate I began TRT. I worked with Todd and we came to a protocol that worked for me. Well long story short my libido is back, energy is up, and my gains in the gym are incredible. I started TRT at 196 pounds and after 19 weeks I was up about 20lbs (215 give or take a pound or two). I don't think these results would be typical but I think this shows how much my low t was affecting me. Todd is the best. You can call him anytime and he will answer any questions you have.

I don't recommend taking AAS but if you suspect you have low T I highly recommend IMT to get you hormones in check.

Thanks to everyone on the forum that answered my questions through my journey!
 
3J said:
what was your trt protcol.. please share
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Started off pretty aggressive at 200 mg of test cyp once a week with .5 mg of anastrozole and 500 iu of HCG twice a week. After changing it up a bit we realized that 150 mg of test cyp worked for me. Everything is working the way it should now and my quality of life has been restored.
 
Got it, thanks for the reply. Most docs would scoff at TRT with those levels. Shows how much they know. I hope you tried everything before hand though :) ( to get those levels up. I'm sure you did)
 
Black Beard said:
Got it, thanks for the reply. Most docs would scoff at TRT with those levels. Shows how much they know. I hope you tried everything before hand though :) ( to get those levels up. I'm sure you did)
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I tried a lot but what would you have recommended? Also there is an argument about what are "good" levels. The range you get on a standard blood test panel is bull if you ask me. After doing a lot of research the high levels of the range come from young adults who are athletic and healthy and the lower end comes from people in their 60s and even 70s who could have diabetes. Well if that is normal count me out. There is a lot of interesting reading on optimal TT levels.
 
If it's low, sometimes there's not much you can do. Sometimes people have crippled levels from bad diet, depression, nutriotional deficiencies, stress/overtraining, etc.

Yeah, sometimes people have androgen receptors that are more sensitive and respond to more T and vice versa. You can also add DHT into the equation which is a powerful androgen in it's own right and isn't looked at that often. Optimal depends on the person i think. I like to see 700+, 600 lowest, but some guys feel great, amazing, happy etc on only 400. It's an individual thing. If that has more to do with DHT or androgen receptor sensitivity or even the person's own psychology, i do not know. It is a fascinating science though.
 
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Black Beard said:
If it's low, sometimes there's not much you can do. Sometimes people have crippled levels from bad diet, depression, nutriotional deficiencies, stress/overtraining, etc.

Yeah, sometimes people have androgen receptors that are more sensitive and respond to more T and vice versa. You can also add DHT into the equation which is a powerful androgen in it's own right and isn't look at that often. Optimal depends on the person i think. I like to see 700+, 600 lowest, but some guys feel great, amazing, happy etc on only 400. It's an individual thing. If that has more to do with DHT or androgen receptor sensitivity or even the person's own psychology, i do not know. It is a fascinating science though.
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I appreciate the feedback! It was good chatting with you. Amazing what a wealth of knowledge this forum can be.
 
why would most doctors scoff at those levels? explain

and while your at it, ask if most of those doctors are on TRT?

Thnx
 
It was nice chatting with you too! I love exchanging information here. I learn a lot and i get to share my knowledge and have great discussions.


IMT staff(love your company's avi pic btw :D) A lot of doctors will not care to put someone on TRT if their levels are "within range"
 
Black Beard said:
It was nice chatting with you too! I love exchanging information here. I learn a lot and i get to share my knowledge and have great discussions.


IMT staff(love your company's avi pic btw :D) A lot of doctors will not care to put someone on TRT if their levels are "within range"
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Why not? So what your saying is if a guy comes in with TT levels of 298 he gets on TRT but the guy with 333 gets denied? Do you know anything about hypogonadism or are you just pretending?

Maybe you should read up on hypogonadism a little bit, and understand what free testosterone means along with symptoms that mean more than a snap shot of whats going on in your blood stream at a single point in time.

Here is a good start for you sir A Harvard expert shares his thoughts on testosterone-replacement therapy - Harvard Health Publications

Good luck on your quest, it seems you have a really long way to go :)
 
I don't understand why you took offense to my comment. I'm saying most GP's don't know anything about TRT and won't put their patients on it without them having garbage levels. I don't care to prove to you what i do or do not know about testosterone replacement therapy. I'm sure you know a lot more than i do. It's your job. Thank you for the link and information though , i mean that :)
 
Sorry it seems everyone is an "expert" lately and it is tiresome seeing all the misinformation floating around on the forum lately from people that did not previously post in here. It took us a long time to get this forum where it is, and lately many of us have seen is a bunch "broscience" and the projection onto others of it.

I am all for sharing and learning, but it would be a good idea to make it known that you are not positive if you are unsure at all.
 
Black Beard said:
If it's low, sometimes there's not much you can do. Sometimes people have crippled levels from bad diet, depression, nutriotional deficiencies, stress/overtraining, etc.

Yeah, sometimes people have androgen receptors that are more sensitive and respond to more T and vice versa. You can also add DHT into the equation which is a powerful androgen in it's own right and isn't looked at that often. Optimal depends on the person i think. I like to see 700+, 600 lowest, but some guys feel great, amazing, happy etc on only 400. It's an individual thing. If that has more to do with DHT or androgen receptor sensitivity or even the person's own psychology, i do not know. It is a fascinating science though.
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I'm at 384 ng/dl as of current labs and can say I can still function a lot better than being below 290 ng/dl.
 
lol.. i feel the same way about the forum as a whole... i have been working 4 years to drill into peoples heads that diet comes first... so when i hear something that contradicts that without facts to back it up (there are no facts to back it up) i get upset myself... glad you are here making that type of a change...
IMT staff said:
Sorry it seems everyone is an "expert" lately and it is tiresome seeing all the misinformation floating around on the forum lately from people that did not previously post in here. It took us a long time to get this forum where it is, and lately many of us have seen is a bunch "broscience" and the projection onto others of it.

I am all for sharing and learning, but it would be a good idea to make it known that you are not positive if you are unsure at all.
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APOLLON said:
I'm at 384 ng/dl as of current labs and can say I can still function a lot better than being below 290 ng/dl.
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Sure, what did you do to get from 290 to 384? I can tell you that when I was at around 400 it was no way to live. Are you considering getting on a TRT protocol? If not, whats stopping you? Sorry about all the questions but I am curious and like to see other people perspectives.
 
I don't see where the misinformation is here. All that was said is that certain doctors will not commence TRT unless serum levels are below reference ranges; the proof is in the many numerous Threads started each and every week about person A getting denied therapy bc person A is still within ranges. Just bc an anti-aging clinic or a clinic devoted solely to testosterone therapy works with these people doesn't mean they weren't denied elsewhere by a different doctor. I think you misunderstood the post.
 
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