Sust 300 + Dbol Cycle Questions

[TryinToGetStrong]

Ok so I've been on Sustanon (sust) for a few weeks now I take my 6th pin today and Im seeing some nice results especially in my back and my arms. I have some dbol I was thinking about adding in would 60mg a day be too much 10mg every 4hrs and what am I going to do just put on a lot of water weight? Or will I see some significant muscle gains as well?

 

[llD3MONll]

i would just save it to kickstart your next cycle dude. dbol will mainly yield mostly water gains and when you stop the dbol, you will loose all the wieght...not worth the time or effort or liver...just my opinion

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Then why would you use it to kickstart?

 

[Jscrilla187]

Then why would you use it to kickstart?

Well I'm new to the forum but dbols are fast acting so if you were to jump start your next cycle you would blow up from just the dbols then when the other stuff kicks in you'll explode.. I dont know if the gains from dbols will stick with ya since it's mostly water weight...I guess it would depend on what else your taking. But definitely a good idea to throw dbols in the mix for the jump start! They will enhance your cycle big time!

 

[MotorIHead]

Ok so I've been on Sustanon (sust) for a few weeks now I take my 6th pin today and Im seeing some nice results especially in my back and my arms. I have some dbol I was thinking about adding in would 60mg a day be too much 10mg every 4hrs and what am I going to do just put on a lot of water weight? Or will I see some significant muscle gains as well?

Dbol is used in the beginning to just start a cycle like they said above. What week are u on ?

 

[Italiano SPO]

Agreed, use to kickstart. Also, 60mg ED is a pretty hefty dose for someone just starting. You could probably use half that that amount and still get a good boost with it.

 

[barrysanders]

I love orals and use them to start & finish. 60mgs is to much just starting off. Try 30-40mgs and see how you feel. You will not need more than 50mgs (depending on the brand-let me know what brand and I can try to advise).

As far as gains. Can't answer that bc each person is different. I have done so many I know that with each 4-5 week cycle I will put on 10-15lbs and about 3-3.5lbs of that is actual muscle-rest is H20. I have recently (in the past 6 months) started using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout my cycle and that really helps with overall water retention. Now, I gain about 8-10lbs and still retain 3-4lbs of muscle during the same cycle .

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

starting week 4

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

I love orals and use them to start & finish. 60mgs is to much just starting off. Try 30-40mgs and see how you feel. You will not need more than 50mgs (depending on the brand-let me know what brand and I can try to advise).

As far as gains. Can't answer that bc each person is different. I have done so many I know that with each 4-5 week cycle I will put on 10-15lbs and about 3-3.5lbs of that is actual muscle-rest is H20. I have recently (in the past 6 months) started using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout my cycle and that really helps with overall water retention. Now, I gain about 8-10lbs and still retain 3-4lbs of muscle during the same cycle .

Its Balkam Pharm also what is Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I keep seeing everywhere but again Im new to alot of this.

 

[MotorIHead]

starting week 4

Yeah no point in running the Dbol then. Ur getting the effects of the Prop as it is (assuming ur doing EOD injections like ur supposed to with Sus "which ur not though cause u've only pinned 6 times") u should be full swing with the long ester'd test nowish or within 2 weeks tops.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I hear what you guys are saying but Dbol works best for me when my T levels are through the roof. You get that nice synergistic effect cause Dbol is more anabolic than test.

Best way to run Dbol: 10 in the morning, 10 a little later, 30mg hour before gym. BAM your heart will be beating out of its chest when you hit the gym

Dont knock it if you havent tried it.....................

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Yeah no point in running the Dbol then. Ur getting the effects of the Prop as it is (assuming ur doing EOD injections like ur supposed to with Sus "which ur not though cause u've only pinned 6 times") u should be full swing with the long ester'd test nowish or within 2 weeks tops.

Yeah only twice a week from what I understand thats enough

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

I hear what you guys are saying but Dbol works best for me when my T levels are through the roof. You get that nice synergistic effect cause Dbol is more anabolic than test.

Best way to run Dbol: 10 in the morning, 10 a little later, 30mg hour before gym. BAM your heart will be beating out of its chest when you hit the gym

Dont knock it if you havent tried it.....................

I thought I had to pop it every 4 hours because of the short half life? Not true?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I thought I had to pop it every 4 hours because of the short half life? Not true?

no dbol is like 6-8. I like to spike it at the gym. when i was on dbol i couldnt believe how much i liked it. people talk bad about it but its the only compound ive ever taken that gives instant strength. Its like you walk into the gym one day and no matter how heavy you lift you should have lifted more. You cant believe it you just added 30lbs to your bench and you can go on forever and you turn red as a tomato when lifting with veins popping out of your neck.

 

[MotorIHead]

Yeah only twice a week from what I understand thats enough

U'll still get decent gains with 2X a week. BUT it's best run EOD. U get the effects of the Prop better that way, and ur blood levels will be more stable.

 

[MotorIHead]

I thought I had to pop it every 4 hours because of the short half life? Not true?

no dbol is like 6-8. I like to spike it at the gym. when i was on dbol i couldnt believe how much i liked it. people talk bad about it but its the only compound ive ever taken that gives instant strength. Its like you walk into the gym one day and no matter how heavy you lift you should have lifted more. You cant believe it you just added 30lbs to your bench and you can go on forever and you turn red as a tomato when lifting with veins popping out of your neck.

Profile on Ology says 3-4 hours..... When u would take it would vary on what time u go to the gym IMO.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Profile on Ology says 3-4 hours..... When u would take it would vary on what time u go to the gym IMO.

Yeah I had always read 4-4.5 hours but Ill go with your guys experience over that also what is a good amount then when I do take it

 

[cjz0220]

Like Oak says take 10mg in morning 10mg at night and 30mg bout 30mins to an hour before the gym its insane. Guy knows his stuff

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Like Oak says take 10mg in morning 10mg at night and 30mg bout 30mins to an hour before the gym its insane. Guy knows his stuff

yea but make sure all of them are gone before you hit the gym. so lets say i work out at 6pm. i would eat some at 9 ( i wake up late) 2 and 5.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

So none after gym time. OK