Sust and Test E cycle? for a bulk

[mrzedx]

Hey guys,

Im looking to go on my first cycle for a bulk i was told that Testosterone Enanthate and Sustanon 250 would be a good combination for me. I tend to disagree, I would rather stack Test E and maybe dianabol for the first 4 weeks.

would you guys recommend something? im currently 65KG.

thanks in advance

 

[CutItalian]

Hey guys,

Im looking to go on my first cycle for a bulk i was told that Testosterone Enanthate and Sustanon 250 would be a good combination for me. I tend to disagree, I would rather stack Test E and maybe dianabol for the first 4 weeks.

would you guys recommend something? im currently 65KG.

thanks in advance

How tall are you? although that doesn't matter considering the fact you never mentioned a post cycle therapy (pct). Also for your 1st cycle you should do a simple Test only, prop, cyp, or enanthate. Your obviously not ready for a cycle.

 

[mrzedx]

i thought clomid or nolva was a prerequisite towards the end of cycle, meaning i didnt have need to say .. anyways. my height is 5'11. i havent thought much about dosages. im still doing my research.

so dianabol from weeks 1-4
test enanthate for weeks 1-10?

i keep getting steered towards staking sust and test enanthate by others.

 

[mr.spoon]

i thought clomid or nolva was a prerequisite towards the end of cycle, meaning i didnt have need to say .. anyways. my height is 5'11. i havent thought much about dosages. im still doing my research.

so dianabol from weeks 1-4
test enanthate for weeks 1-10?

i keep getting steered towards staking sust and test enanthate by others.

i would just do test e first cycle you dont need sus thats stupid do mon and thurs,500mg a week for 12 weeks.use clomid as pct simple.

 

[Cliffytan]

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[UserAt204]

Do you realize sustanon is test so you were told to stack 4-5 different esters of test? That makes absolutely no sense.

Test E would be best for a first cycle. Sust typically gets pinned more frequently but can be difficult to keep levels stable and that leads to estro problems like gyno, bloat, etc.

Keep it simple. Also you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct

 

[ErectusMaximus]

User, Spoon, or anyone else that says test E is giving you great advice. Research what kind of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will work best for you; not all work the same for everyone. Then research clomid some more. Its better you look it up yourself cause you will see "why".

Learn about HCG too. You prob don't need it for this cycle but if you have the money you may want it anyhow.

You can learn about anything you want to about diet, training, and chems on this site.

 

[mrzedx]

Do you realize sustanon is test so you were told to stack 4-5 different esters of test? That makes absolutely no sense.

Test E would be best for a first cycle. Sust typically gets pinned more frequently but can be difficult to keep levels stable and that leads to estro problems like gyno, bloat, etc.

Keep it simple. Also you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct

yeap thats exactly what i said to the idiot that recommended it to me, ive been reading up over the past few months doing my research, is test E the best way to go or are there better substances for a first cycle, i can get my hands on quiet a few ie dianabol deca tren etc.

i wanted to stack it with dianabol for weeks 1-4 ofcourse using a liver guard with it. or is that too much for a first cycle? people steer me away from dianabol for some reason i know it causes water retention but if stacked arent good gains made?

by Aromatase inhibitor (AI) u mean the test right? pct i was thinking nolvadex or clomid would do right? but im not sure in what mg dosages. i know it helps control est levels etc so saves you from gyno.

i know diet is key to gains also and water. so ill keep myself hydrated and cals around 4-5Kcals.

is there anything besides these im missing?

EDIT: i read up on HCG a while back it rings a bell but will do more research thanks.

 

[DADAWG]

test eth or cyp at 400-600 mg a week for 10-12 weeks .start clomid at 50 mg a day 2 weeks after the last test injection and run clomid for 3-4 weeks.
an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is aromotose inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin , run 12.5 - 25 mg of aromasin a day from start of cycle until pct ends.

 

[mrzedx]

test e weeks 1-10/12 400mg-600mg - some people say 12 weeks i really dont know :S
week 11 last shot on week 11
dont do shit on week 12
week 13 begin nolva /clomid
nolva for 4 weeks 40/30/20/20 or clomid for 3 weeks 100/50/50....


how does that look and why is everybody steering me away from dianabol? thanks. even if i use a liver guard?

i was really looking into Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) what are possible names and dosages and are they avail at supplement stores?
and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) are they sold at supplement stores?

which

 

[DADAWG]

test e weeks 1-10/12 400mg-600mg - some people say 12 weeks i really dont know :S
week 11 last shot on week 11
dont do shit on week 12
week 13 begin nolva /clomid
nolva for 4 weeks 40/30/20/20 or clomid for 3 weeks 100/50/50....


how does that look and why is everybody steering me away from dianabol? thanks. even if i use a liver guard?

i was really looking into Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) what are possible names and dosages and are they avail at supplement stores?
and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) are they sold at supplement stores?

which

use reals ai's that are easily available from research companies all over the place , the sponser here RUI has plenty , just click his banner at the top of most of the anabolic forum pages.

also read the sticky posted at the top of the anabolic forum called oral only cycles.