Sust+Deca cycle ? (dosage)

[jc973]

I've been reading here a while just to expand my knowledge and I've also read that Sustanon (sust) should be pinned eod, which made me kinda confused on the dosage

If my next cycle will be
Sust 250 (600 mg/week)
Deca 200 (400 mg/week)

How would I break that up eod ml wise?

TIA

 

[ScrawnyLawyer84]

I've been reading here a while just to expand my knowledge and I've also read that Sustanon (sust) should be pinned eod, which made me kinda confused on the dosage

If my next cycle will be
Sust 250 (600 mg/week)
Deca 200 (400 mg/week)

How would I break that up eod ml wise?

TIA

Pin 0.7ml of Sustanon (sust) and 0.6ml of Deca EOD.

(600/250) / 3.5 = 0.68
(400/200) / 3.5 = 0.57

 

[MotorIHead]

I've been reading here a while just to expand my knowledge and I've also read that Sustanon (sust) should be pinned eod, which made me kinda confused on the dosage

If my next cycle will be
Sust 250 (600 mg/week)
Deca 200 (400 mg/week)

How would I break that up eod ml wise?

TIA

Pinning EOD u would have to fluctuate how much u pin each week to get exactly 600mg. This is b/c ur gonna be pinning 4x a week the 1st week, then 3x the 2nd week so on and so on, it goes back and forth.

If I were u I would just pin .7 of a CC EOD for the Sus. That would leave u with the 4x a week injections @700mg that week, and the 3x a week injections @525mg that week. Which is an average of 612.5mg, their is always going to be a little waste prolly around 5% so ur going to be a lil under 600mg average but it's close enough. It doesn't have to be exact.

The Deca I would pin 1CC 2x/wk. Their is no reason to pin Deca EOD.

 

[Polynikes666]

Or, you could really simplify matters by just pinning twice per week. I honestly don't think that you (or I) would notice the difference. Obviously, it's up to you.

Poly

 

[MotorIHead]

Or, you could really simplify matters by just pinning twice per week. I honestly don't think that you (or I) would notice the difference. Obviously, it's up to you.

Poly

If he's gonna do 2x a week injections, he's better off using Test C or E. 2x a week will still get good results with Sus, BUT it will yield less stable blood levels, and u won't get the effects of the Prop.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Pinning EOD u would have to fluctuate how much u pin each week to get exactly 600mg..

no motor, it would be the same. your body doesnt go on a weekly calendar. its the same amount every 2 weeks. the more you pin the more stable things will be.

 

[MotorIHead]

no motor, it would be the same. your body doesnt go on a weekly calendar. its the same amount every 2 weeks. the more you pin the more stable things will be.

Each week thru ur cycle with EOD injections ur going to have 1 week with 3x a week, then the next week 4x a week. If he wants 600mg/wk exactly how would he not have to fluctuate how much he injects ?

 

[Polynikes666]

I always think lazy and simple

If he's gonna do 2x a week injections, he's better off using Test C or E. 2x a week will still get good results with Sus, BUT it will yield less stable blood levels, and u won't get the effects of the Prop.

I'm just suggesting a simplification of his proposed regimen, using the compounds he has on hand. Hell, If he's going to endure the pain in the ass of an EOD schedule, I'd prefer to see him pinning test prop alone at 150mg/eod.

Poly

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Each week thru ur cycle with EOD injections ur going to have 1 week with 3x a week, then the next week 4x a week. If he wants 600mg/wk exactly how would he not have to fluctuate how much he injects ?

it doesnt matter if you take x amount over 2 weeks 4 weeks etc.............the more you pin the more stable levels will be. I wondered the same thing when i first started doing it like that, only to realise your body does go on a weekly calendar it goes daily.

 

[MotorIHead]

I'm just suggesting a simplification of his proposed regimen, using the compounds he has on hand. Hell, If he's going to endure the pain in the ass of an EOD schedule, I'd prefer to see him pinning test prop alone at 150mg/eod.

Poly

True I hear what ur saying, but on the same token it's easier to pin once a week. Am I going to suggest that, no b/c it's not the best way to pin Sus. I guess all I was getting at is if he doesn't want to run it the best/right way, switch the compound.

 

[MotorIHead]

it doesnt matter if you take x amount over 2 weeks 4 weeks etc.............the more you pin the more stable levels will be. I wondered the same thing when i first started doing it like that, only to realise your body does go on a weekly calendar it goes daily.

I assume u meant "doesn't" ? So he wants 600mg/wk that's going to be 85.71mg/day. How much should he pin CC wise each week to get 600mg/wk with EOD injections.....

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

600/3.5 or 1200/7 its same thing

 

[MotorIHead]

600/3.5 or 1200/7 its same thing

I don't think ur getting what I'm saying & u didn't answer the questions at all.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yea i meant doesnt.

600/3.5 is roughly 171 @ 250mg/ml .7ml is 175. so thats what i would pin of the Sustanon (sust) EOD .7ml

 

[Polynikes666]

I guess all I was getting at is if he doesn't want to run it the best/right way, switch the compound.

I can dig that! Simplifying can sure get complicated.

Poly

 

[MotorIHead]

yea i meant doesnt.

600/3.5 is roughly 171 @ 250mg/ml .7ml is 175. so thats what i would pin of the Sustanon (sust) EOD .7ml

That's exactly what I told him to do. But by doing that ur not going to get 600mg/wk every week. 1 week is going to be 700mg the next is 525mg, then back to 700mg so on and so on. Yes ur going to get 600mg/wk average over a 2 week period (which is fine IMO and what I suggested him to do) I understand that at the end of his cycle he's going to be taking the same amount of mg in the end. BUT if he wants exactly 600mg/wk he's going to have to inject .8 of a CC on the 3 days a week injections, and .6 of a CC on the 4 days a week injections.

 

[MotorIHead]

I can dig that! Simplifying can sure get complicated.

Poly

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[THE-DET-OAK]

That's exactly what I told him to do. But by doing that ur not going to get 600mg/wk every week. 1 week is going to be 700mg the next is 525mg, then back to 700mg so on and so on. Yes ur going to get 600mg/wk average over a 2 week period (which is fine IMO and what I suggested him to do) I understand that at the end of his cycle he's going to be taking the same amount of mg in the end. BUT if he wants exactly 600mg/wk he's going to have to inject .8 of a CC on the 3 days a week injections, and .6 of a CC on the 4 days a week injections.

there is no reason whatsoever to try and get equal doses per week, your totally missing the point of realizing that is not how your body works.

if you try and pull your suggestion off you will actually be throwing your blood levels into a roller coaster effect

Doing that would be the exact opposite of what your trying to achieve. breaking doses down in a weekly matter is simply a means of satisfying our brain, it will not satisfy the body.

 

[MotorIHead]

there is no reason whatsoever to try and get equal doses per week, your totally missing the point of realizing that is not how your body works.

if you try and pull your suggestion off you will actually be throwing your blood levels into a roller coaster effect

Doing that would be the exact opposite of what your trying to achieve. breaking doses down in a weekly matter is simply a means of satisfying our brain, it will not satisfy the body.

Exactly and I agree with u. That's why I told him to not worry about the 600mg/wk and to just do .7 of a CC EOD.

Then u said "no it would be the same" to me saying "Pinning EOD u would have to fluctuate how much u pin each week to get exactly 600mg.." We went totally off subject from what u said to me.

So explain how u would not have to fluctuate how much u pin to get exactly 600mg/wk with EOD injections.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I dont have time to get into a detailed explanation for this but we can come back to it later. here is the short of it though.

when you dose EOD thats what your doing, dosing EOD not weekly.

we tend to generalize for members of the board a weekly dose because its simplistic. the fact of the matter there is nothing simplistic about ester cleavage.

shooting 600 mg a week in 1 shot is completely different than 2 300mg shots a week.

your blood levels will be in a completely different range with the 2 seperate dosing patterns.

so what im saying is "weekly" is not very accurate, EOD is much more accurate.

figuring out what your "weekly" dosage is when your not dosing weekly is just an estimation.

what im saying is its irrelavent what his weekly dose is unless your generalizing to decide if its high ior low dose.