test is test fellas. there is no proof that different esters cause you to hold more water than another. all the ester does is controll time release and soluability. 1g test is 1g test. the longer esters actaully have less parent hormone because of the weight of the ester. enan has approx 70-75% the amount of test as suspension does mg for mg. I have done Tne, prop, enan, cyp, sus, omadren and they all have the same effect on me. some hit faster and get out quicker but it is still test. i have found that by doing larger doses of test, 2g/w+ that i start to lean out. and thats with cyp which has a fairly long half life.