sustanon Tren ace and masteron

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doogs

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Hey coming real close to when I can get on again and wanna sort my whole cycles dosages and PCT out so do suggest What's best here is. I have never run mast before either and both prop and ethernate is available to me I was thinking of going mast e just to save a few dollars and less pinning

Sustanon 500mg a week (e2d shots)
Tren Ace 100mg e2d
Mast e 500 a week
Got caber on hand and aromasin
5000iu HCG

PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50

Enlighten me people with any advice much appreciated


Age 27
4th cycle
Body fat 9%
 
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Sorry this will be 4th cycle

Sust 1-12 weeks
Tren ace 3-11 weeks
Mast e 1-11 weeks or less If I run out

Should a lower my test level?
Everything's sitting on about 500 a week ATM
 
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testo increase side effect of trenbolone. need A.I and Cabergoline.

mast have an anti-estrogen effect, not weak, but strong. No need A.I in this cycle.

Less testo. less sust.

run tren-ace longer than sust. sus has long esters. think about it. tren for 13 weeks.

PCT 3 week after last pin of sust.

clomid and nolva.

between the last jab of sust till you start PCt, take a A.I to avoid estrogen rebounce. my choice is Aromasin. thus run run aromasin 12.5mg/ed till PCt.

tren-ce EOD... EOD for 6 weeks. and ED for 6 weeks. if not, you will get tow mush testo runing trough your blood regarding the tren, and then you will get only the sides of tren, while you will get benef of mast. better to get benef of both.

see it. ask about it. plan it.
 
Kane_Red_Machine said:
testo increase side effect of trenbolone. need A.I and Cabergoline.

mast have an anti-estrogen effect, not weak, but strong. No need A.I in this cycle.

Less testo. less sust.

run tren-ace longer than sust. sus has long esters. think about it. tren for 13 weeks.

PCT 3 week after last pin of sust.

clomid and nolva.

between the last jab of sust till you start PCt, take a A.I to avoid estrogen rebounce. my choice is Aromasin. thus run run aromasin 12.5mg/ed till PCt.

tren-ce EOD... EOD for 6 weeks. and ED for 6 weeks. if not, you will get tow mush testo runing trough your blood regarding the tren, and then you will get only the sides of tren, while you will get benef of mast. better to get benef of both.

see it. ask about it. plan it.
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I don't agree with this at all. Why would u wait to take an ai between last pin and pct? Mast is not an ai. Odd advice coming from you...
 
tbonexl said:
I don't agree with this at all. Why would u wait to take an ai between last pin and pct1? Mast is not an ai2. Odd advice coming from you...
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1)because of rebond estrogen after masteron+testo, and converstion in estrogen of sust because of long ester, decanoate.

2) masteron act as a anti-estrogen, not an anti aromastase. but it works for sure as anti-estrogen. then no A.I during cycle only caber is suffisent.

tren+ testo+AI= dry joint and rebond of estrogen after use, beacause prolactin and estro together occur "tren-gyno" is only way to explain how you can get sore nipples, lump under nips, from tren-cycle. ( usualy too mush testo is the problem met by the user of tren).

the masteron in this cycle is usefull and increase some effect of tren both bind strongly AR. and don't aromatise, plus, mast will combat estrogen. no A.I during cycle.

between last jab os sust, and before PCT. like ther's nomore mast to prevent high level of estrogen, A.I are usefull to, aromasin is suicidal A.I, then is my choice but 12.5/ed is needed.

after what you can run PCT.

So ther's a choice mast or A.I not both together with tren.

of corse mast is safer choice.

tren-ace bring 83mg of pure tren for each ml of tren-ace 100mg/ml

EOD is 249 of pure trenbolone mg/week. regarding the weight of esters of Sustanon, 500mg/week of sust bring exactly the amont of testo needed indeed.

well that's point of view to run drostanolone+trenbone+testo in a safe way. less hormones, big resuslts.
 
Ive ran Test/Tren/Mast twice. These exact esters once. Mast is one of those drugs where more IS actually better which is not the case for most. So id run a MINIMUM of 600 preferably 800.

As far as the lay out goes.....
Sust need EOD injections
Tren A needs ED injections not EOD its halflife is VERY short and it is optimal to run this ester ED.
Mast E can be done 2x per week.

So heres what Id do
Youre going to be injecting Tren ED already as it is for the majority of the cycle so why just inject everything ED and save yourself the headache of doing one ED ine EOD and the other 2x per weeks. Thats just a pain.

Sust 100mg ED
Tren 50mg ED (up this dose based on how you handles sides)
Mast E 100mg ED (I say this because your Mast E is most likely 200mg/ml I would guess and this makes life simple and this dose is a great dose for Mast)

Your AI needs to be taken from day one as well as HCG
A DA does not meed to be taken from day one but should be kept on hand in case any prolactin issues arise.

PCT should be BOTH clomid and nolva

Masteron does act as an AI but a very mild one a will not cut it will a Test dose of 500mg per week.

Some would argue low Test/high Tren is better. Some would argue high Test/high Tren is better. This is a personal preference thing and something youll have to see for yourself which is better for you my friend!

Hope this helps.
 
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Kane_Red_Machine said:
1)because of rebond estrogen after masteron+testo, and converstion in estrogen of sust because of long ester, decanoate.

2) masteron act as a anti-estrogen, not an anti aromastase. but it works for sure as anti-estrogen. then no A.I during cycle only caber is suffisent.

tren+ testo+AI= dry joint and rebond of estrogen after use, beacause prolactin and estro together occur "tren-gyno" is only way to explain how you can get sore nipples, lump under nips, from tren-cycle. ( usualy too mush testo is the problem met by the user of tren).

the masteron in this cycle is usefull and increase some effect of tren both bind strongly AR. and don't aromatise, plus, mast will combat estrogen. no A.I during cycle.

between last jab os sust, and before PCT. like ther's nomore mast to prevent high level of estrogen, A.I are usefull to, aromasin is suicidal A.I, then is my choice but 12.5/ed is needed.

after what you can run PCT.

So ther's a choice mast or A.I not both together with tren.

of corse mast is safer choice.

tren-ace bring 83mg of pure tren for each ml of tren-ace 100mg/ml

EOD is 249 of pure trenbolone mg/week. regarding the weight of esters of Sustanon, 500mg/week of sust bring exactly the amont of testo needed indeed.

well that's point of view to run drostanolone+trenbone+testo in a safe way. less hormones, big resuslts.
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Tren gyno??? Really???

If what your saying is true then you wouldnt even need an ai between cuz the mast has the enanthate ester. Anyways that absolutely makes no sense and not recommended at all. Your basically telling everybody even the noobs to skip an ai and just use mast! Lol. Come on guy!

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
 
When I ran tren ace and e, I also included bromo or dost along with exemestane. It worked better for me than than exemestane alone.
 
Schredder said:
Ive ran Test/Tren/Mast twice. These exact esters once. Mast is one of those drugs where more IS actually better which is not the case for most. So id run a MINIMUM of 600 preferably 800.

As far as the lay out goes.....
Sust need EOD injections
Tren A needs ED injections not EOD its halflife is VERY short and it is optimal to run this ester ED.
Mast E can be done 2x per week.

So heres what Id do
Youre going to be injecting Tren ED already as it is for the majority of the cycle so why just inject everything ED and save yourself the headache of doing one ED ine EOD and the other 2x per weeks. Thats just a pain.

Sust 100mg ED
Tren 50mg ED (up this dose based on how you handles sides)
Mast E 100mg ED (I say this because your Mast E is most likely 200mg/ml I would guess and this makes life simple and this dose is a great dose for Mast)

Your AI needs to be taken from day one as well as HCG
A DA does not meed to be taken from day one but should be kept on hand in case any prolactin issues arise.

PCT should be BOTH clomid and nolva

Masteron does act as an AI but a very mild one a will not cut it will a Test dose of 500mg per week.

Some would argue low Test/high Tren is better. Some would argue high Test/high Tren is better. This is a personal preference thing and something youll have to see for yourself which is better for you my friend!

Hope this helps.
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OK that sounds good I was told not to use nolva with Tren as it's a 19nor ,what ever that is and can cause prolactin ..

Previous cycles I have run low test high tren 200/525 with good results I'm just introducing the mast e this time around.. and what weeks and dosage Should I run the hcg? As I only have 1 vial of 5000iu
 
doogs said:
OK that sounds good I was told not to use nolva with Tren as it's a 19nor ,what ever that is and can cause prolactin ..

Previous cycles I have run low test high tren 200/525 with good results I'm just introducing the mast e this time around.. and what weeks and dosage Should I run the hcg? As I only have 1 vial of 5000iu
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You don't even know what a nor19 is or what doesage to run hcg? Do yourself a favor and spend a lot of time reading. Do your own research so you actually have an idea what's going on.
 
OP -- your injecting a '19 nor' in your body ed for 12 weeks,,, yet you said "" 19 Nors or whatever the heck that is""...
If I didn't know what something was I sure as shit wouldn't inject it
 
Schredder said:
Ive ran Test/Tren/Mast twice. These exact esters once. Mast is one of those drugs where more IS actually better which is not the case for most. So id run a MINIMUM of 600 preferably 800.

As far as the lay out goes.....
Sust need EOD injections
Tren A needs ED injections not EOD its halflife is VERY short and it is optimal to run this ester ED.
Mast E can be done 2x per week.

So heres what Id do
Youre going to be injecting Tren ED already as it is for the majority of the cycle so why just inject everything ED and save yourself the headache of doing one ED ine EOD and the other 2x per weeks. Thats just a pain.

Sust 100mg ED
Tren 50mg ED (up this dose based on how you handles sides)
Mast E 100mg ED (I say this because your Mast E is most likely 200mg/ml I would guess and this makes life simple and this dose is a great dose for Mast)

Your AI needs to be taken from day one as well as HCG
A DA does not meed to be taken from day one but should be kept on hand in case any prolactin issues arise.

PCT should be BOTH clomid and nolva

Masteron does act as an AI but a very mild one a will not cut it will a Test dose of 500mg per week.

Some would argue low Test/high Tren is better. Some would argue high Test/high Tren is better. This is a personal preference thing and something youll have to see for yourself which is better for you my friend!

Hope this helps.
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fair and blanced cycle.
 
tbonexl said:
Tren gyno??? Really???

If what your saying is true then you wouldnt even need an ai between cuz the mast has the enanthate ester. Anyways that absolutely makes no sense and not recommended at all. Your basically telling everybody even the noobs to skip an ai and just use mast! Lol. Come on guy!

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
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i did not said tren gyno, i said : "tren-gyno" ... "..." supposed or called as... Tren has a prolactin action, that estrogen will aggravates. then they get strange symptoms, and that what they worries as gyno symptoms. " tren-gyno".

as an A.I during cycle with mast, anastrosol could be an help. however, no estrogen at all means sore joints, dry tendons.

that the reason why i will not recommend A.I in THIS cycle. but why not to get it reach his hand, just in case of.

ounce again. Tren-mast is a strong combo, and possible to run less hormones and less medication to.

none of us are physician, so, we are just giving opinion, and advices based on experiences.
 
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