I have tried and used the pumpnpose and syntherol for several months.
It never ceases to amaze me how "men" seem to be always thinking there is a faster and easier or instant way to achieve something...ugggg if its not earned it is not real This stuff is no exception.
I hold a masters in physiology. The claims about stretching the muscle are true as that is the very essence of "allowing" space for muscle to enlarge...the science behind these products are in part truth but mostly BS. The pump (intensity) is critical to muscle growth whether its through weights or assisted medication (steroids, hgh, insulin, usually in combination and so on).
The instructions for injecting these oils are correct but the insistence on permanent gains are 100% bull they "DO NOT LAST" on a permanent basis. Muscle structure is much more complicated than simply stretching it to make large volume muscle gains if that were true yoga practitioners should be hugh.
I experimented with the dosage and volume of injections from 1ml to 5ml to 12ml (per day) in the smaller muscles only (biceps triceps and calves). If you tried to enlarge the quads chest traps you would be financing your future retirement into this stuff...Hugh Hugh volumes would be needed.
Here is what I tried: (From 3 different producers (pumped..syntherol..and pumpnpose)
Biceps triceps (all heads) and calves.
The original instructions for gaining 3" on the arms... 30 days..of 1ml then 2 then 3 ext...yielded minimal movement. It inflamed the muscle the first few times as was expected the muscles took on a sort of rounded proportion (looked like fluid underneath). Understand I have a Frank Zane body builder physique very well proportioned and very nice so this should have been very visible immediately.
This experiment yielded about 1/4" on the calves and arms and that disappeared after 3 weeks. So I upped the anty and started at 3ml.... one in the outer ..inner and middle triceps and outer and inner head of the bicep for a total 12ml (in each arm) for 3 weeks..that added about 1"onto my arms. I was very careful about rotating the injection sites and keeping things looking natural and proportional. I kept the 1" for about 4 months then it seemed to settle down to about a 1/2" gain, which has been stable for about 4 months.
I have access to an ultrasound machine and had a friend of mine run some images..what we found was that oil is still trapped in the tighter areas of the muscle structures. This oil will eventually dissipate naturally as the body breaks it down over the course of a few months until it is completely gone (the body treats this stuff as invasive..essentially poison). We also noticed quite a bit of scaring which we are now breaking down through Athletic release treatment.
Guys all of these site oil product producers are hamming the stuff up or outright lying (except esik clean who seems to admit they are not permanent). We took all three producers and had the liquids broken down...one of the common ingredients they are using is a know carcinogen..(causes cancer).
Do not believe the photos that are being posted. Calves will not take on a sharp edge under the skin as some photos suggest by injecting liquid of any kind..liquid is liquid and fluid by nature..those photos with sharply defined calves are calve implants..my brother implants about 15-20 of these a year as a plastic surgeon.
In essence I agree with using it as prep or final touching up for contests...."cheating" as some would say is horse shit because everyone on stage is using something whether its thermogenics to burn fat..aspirin or ephedrine ..or a crap load of anabolic s or the latest rubbing hemorrhoid medication all over the body to bring out vascularity so dont fly that virgin flag about cheating. This stuff creates temporary changes only. It also does not work at all for some people because their muscle structure is simply looser and cannot hold the oil in place for very long. So use it for contests and leave it at that.
These people with the mosquito bites have been continuously injecting for years hence the freak show. There are inherent dangers. Injecting oil into an artery will cause an arterial embolism (instant death) or stroke...this whole sport has turned into a complete bastardized freak show of every proportion..Frank Zane was right 30 years ago when he started speaking out about how marketing has destroyed the culture of it.
These products are being marketed as a epidermal (skin application) which is fraudulent. How can you trust anyone who cant even stand up and be honest about the product they are selling? They will not advertise the stuff as a subcutaneous, (injection), because of the implications or regulatory laws.
Ask the suppliers for evidence of long term studies and they will not be able to produce anything from legitimate laboratory studies.
If its too good to be true it always is!
...be smart not gullible.
Dont think that you will look like "Greg" by injecting syn into your muscles. If you havent used it then you have no say in it; dont repeat the same bullshit every other dumbass says.
Syn is useless; I did use it to see exactely what it would do. I would say that it is useful only for competitions on the smallest size muscles; like the outer tri head for example. If you want to increase the size of a bigger muscle you'll have to inject a shit load more to even see any increase in size. The pain is very minimal even at 2cc in the outer head of the tri for example.
Do I think it works like big A says it works on stretching the facia? I dont see that it would work any better than stretching your muscles everyday. I do think that it's useless for that purpose to use by pro bodybuilders; which big A claims pro BB use to get big; that's a bunch of bullshit. You'd have to incject at least 4 cc each day into a bicep for example to even stretch the facia a bit; that could work better in someone who's got smaller muscles than someone who's arms are 22in. That would be comparing an injection of 1cc to 6cc per day.
Conclusion: useless for what it is said to do. Used for comp is another story; but that's my personal opinion. If you havent used it; dont make a stupid comment.
