Synthetic Testosterone and producing ... Halfwit educate me ;) lol

[darkwing86]

So ive been reading and wondering how it is that synthetic testosterone is produced . I know that it seems synthesized from soy ( or isoflavones) because of how similar the molecular structure is to that of testosterone ... but say after that have these molecules (soy ) ... what has to be done or added to them in order to change it or restructure them ( if thats what they are doing ) to make them testosterone?

 

[e92]

lol i swear this board is turning into a chemistry class

 

[halfwit]

A lot is made from Mexican yams too. The term synthetic doesn't apply here by the way as the hormones we use are made from actual organic sources, and our bodies cannot tell the difference. That's why they're called bioidentical.

Here's some good reading that can help explain a bit. It's intended for women, but the information is still applicable and correct.

What are bioidentical hormones? - Harvard Health

Yeah, too many smarty pants for a board full of meatheads.

 

[darkwing86]

Thanks always Halfwit !

 

[darkwing86]

So Halfwit .. according to that post .. correct me if im wrong .. these bioidentical hormones ... they are already identical in some things like yam and soy right .... but identical wouldnt mean enough for the body to be fooled its testosterone yet right ? in that picture i posted above ... how could u or would u use those to create testosterone ? i see the similarities ... but what am i missing ... do they somehow have to now mess around with the molecule with chemical reactions or microscopes to get the final product (test) or how can u use those similar structured molecules ?

 

[halfwit]

So Halfwit .. according to that post .. correct me if im wrong .. these bioidentical hormones ... they are already identical in some things like yam and soy right .... but identical wouldnt mean enough for the body to be fooled its testosterone yet right ? in that picture i posted above ... how could u or would u use those to create testosterone ? i see the similarities ... but what am i missing ... do they somehow have to now mess around with the molecule with chemical reactions or microscopes to get the final product (test) or how can u use those similar structured molecules ?

Modifying the molecules is actually an easy task for a skilled lab. Certain chemical reactions cause the bonds to break, and allow for new ones to form - creating a new molecule. Let me put it this way; I'm sure you've had table salt, right? Table salt is sodium chloride (NaCl), which is made from sodium (Na) and chlorine (Cl) - both of which are extremely poisonous to us humans (in fact, sodium is highly flammable and chlorine gas kills quickly), yet salt is vital to our existence. This is a chemical reaction that occurs in nature, that causes them to bind together under certain circumstances.

What you're seeing is actually called the lattice structure, symbolizing the bonds that hold each molecule together. Science has been manipulating these bonds for quite some time to create new/improved/useful substances that we use every day. I'd go further in depth, but we're approaching the limit of my two semesters of chemistry haha.

 

[darkwing86]

Thank you again Halfwit ! Ur brilliant !

 

[Prowl]

Hey Halfwit, are you the chemist that made the gamma rays that the hulk took to make him big and green??, if so can I have some..lol

 

[halfwit]

Hey Halfwit, are you the chemist that made the gamma rays that the hulk took to make him big and green??, if so can I have some..lol

Haha, if only. Then there'd be a 6'7" Mr. O.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I know you can make it from butter. Find a organtic chemisty text book from the 50's

 

[halfwit]

I know you can make it from butter. Find a organtic chemisty text book from the 50's

I can see that as we make it from cholesterol, which is a fat. I'm going to have to look that up now!