Test Deca Cycle - have dex do I need Caber?

[grayrh42]

So going to do a cycle that will just be Test C (500mg/wk) and Deca (400mg/wk). Plan on taking .5 liquidex EOD to control the sides.

Question is on the Caber? Do I need this ? Have read a lot and seems like as long as you keep the estradiol in check you really won't need the Caber?

Also taking the liquiCia to help with the potential DecaDick.

Thoughts?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Best to have it on hand. Cia more than likely won't do much to overcome high prolactin.

If your in a position where you could risk losing your ability to get an erection for a few weeks and it wouldn't matter, then maybe you could just order a DA if you get hit.

 

[Megatron28]

Don't cheap out. Have Caber or Prami on hand. Your dick will thank you.

 

[grayrh42]

So is there a good research place to find this? I usually go to the site sponsor, but see they only have Prami and in liquid. I have not read anything good about the liquid form as it tends to lose potency and the Prami had some bad sides?
Also, is this dosed at the beginning of the cycle or 3-4 weeks in? Start at .25 mg a week? E3D?

Also, I normally just get Female panel at Privatemdlabs, is there a bundle that has the prolactin check in it as well?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

So is there a good research place to find this? I usually go to the site sponsor, but see they only have Prami and in liquid. I have not read anything good about the liquid form as it tends to lose potency and the Prami had some bad sides?
Also, is this dosed at the beginning of the cycle or 3-4 weeks in? Start at .25 mg a week? E3D?

Also, I normally just get Female panel at Privatemdlabs, is there a bundle that has the prolactin check in it as well?

Go with RUI. Not sure where you read that ridiculous statement about liquid compounds being less potent. Prami is fine. A lot of people get sides from both. Best to start low and slowly build up your dose. You can gain a tolerance to the sides pretty quick and most people are fine on it after a few doses.

You should dose it from day 1. Start as low as you can (~0.125mg-ish.) Ask Mega about the blood work question.

 

[Megatron28]

Go with RUI. Not sure where you read that ridiculous statement about liquid compounds being less potent. Prami is fine. A lot of people get sides from both. Best to start low and slowly build up your dose. You can gain a tolerance to the sides pretty quick and most people are fine on it after a few doses.

You should dose it from day 1. Start as low as you can (~0.125mg-ish.) Ask Mega about the blood work question.

The panels with prolactin are really expensive. Just get the Hormone Panel for Females and add in the prolactin panel.

 

[grayrh42]

Thanks for the information. Just to clarify, should the Prami be dosed ED, EOD or E3D?? Have read to start really low, take at night and work your way up in small steps. So .125 to start, but do I do that ED for 3 days then move up to .25 and do that ED for 3 days and so on till I get to the right dosage?? Or would it be better to do .125 E3D for a couple dosages and then go to .25 E3D for a couple dosage?

Sorry if this is all covered someplace, but in my searching have not really found a good answer yet.

 

[Black Beard]

Prolactin doesn't affect erections directly. Cialis probably wouldn't help much. It affects desire starting at the brain.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks for the information. Just to clarify, should the Prami be dosed ED, EOD or E3D?? Have read to start really low, take at night and work your way up in small steps. So .125 to start, but do I do that ED for 3 days then move up to .25 and do that ED for 3 days and so on till I get to the right dosage?? Or would it be better to do .125 E3D for a couple dosages and then go to .25 E3D for a couple dosage?

Sorry if this is all covered someplace, but in my searching have not really found a good answer yet.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[tbonexl]

.5mgs of dex eod is a bit much to start out with. Try e3d or .25 eod.

 

[mightysatchmo]

Indeed have it on hand rather than scramble when so.ething comes up. Im using 500mg of deca a week on current blast and its been 8-10 weeks on with no issues but I do have prami on hand and im all over my bloodwork and ai dosing.

 

[grayrh42]

Mega, thanks for the link, had looked there before but missed the other link to the Estrogen and Prolactin part. So now i see I was confusing the Caber and Prami on the dosing.

Tbonexl, I am on a TRT protocol and have some sensitivity to estrogen and have found that .25 mg de e3d is what I need for 125 mg week TRT, thus the .5 eod with the increased dosage.

So last question, I think.., The FAQ says to not really start the prami till you notice an issue, same thing mightysatchmo indicated. How do you really know when that is?? I plan blood work prior, 4 weeks in and then after the cycle. Going to do 14 week of Deca and 16 week of Test Cyp. So if I test at 4 week and the Prolactin looks good, what are the main indicator later in the cycle that I would look for or should I plan bloods at 8week and 12 week as well?

Forgot to mention I do have Tamox on hand incase any Gyno flares up.

 

[Megatron28]

Mega, thanks for the link, had looked there before but missed the other link to the Estrogen and Prolactin part. So now i see I was confusing the Caber and Prami on the dosing.

Tbonexl, I am on a TRT protocol and have some sensitivity to estrogen and have found that .25 mg de e3d is what I need for 125 mg week TRT, thus the .5 eod with the increased dosage.

So last question, I think.., The FAQ says to not really start the prami till you notice an issue, same thing mightysatchmo indicated. How do you really know when that is?? I plan blood work prior, 4 weeks in and then after the cycle. Going to do 14 week of Deca and 16 week of Test Cyp. So if I test at 4 week and the Prolactin looks good, what are the main indicator later in the cycle that I would look for or should I plan bloods at 8week and 12 week as well?

Forgot to mention I do have Tamox on hand incase any Gyno flares up.

Erectile Dysfunction. Lactation from your nipples would be another sign.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Prolactin doesn't affect erections directly. Cialis probably wouldn't help much. It affects desire starting at the brain.[/QUOTE

High prolactin can/ will lessen or keep you from Orgasm. keep that prolactin in check. Also Narcotics such as the opiate drugs will hold back orgasms even correct dosing by your doctor. It doesn't have to be abuse.

Liquid Cial will keep you in good shape for days if taken EOD