Test E + Anavar (var) in Front or Back?

[Jacked27]

Test E + Var in Front or Back?

Test E 275/cc (2x per week)
12-16 weeks total.

Var 25mg/tab (2 tabs per day)
8 weeks total

So tell me on Var, do weeks 1-8, 9-16, 5-12, etc? Not sure if you'all think I should do the Test 1-12, then Anavar (var) 9-16, dropping Test the last 4 weeks. (prob a bad idea?) Maybe the last 4 weeks drop Test E to 1cc(275mg) a week?

Thanks bros!

This is my 2nd cycle, first was 400-500mg/wk of Sustanon (sust) or cyp, 12 weeks.

Goal is to eat near maintenance the entire cycle and cut the hell up. Not in a bro sense, in a pure dieting sense. Done it before naturally, and theres no reason to bulk/fat up when on. That is the time to gain muscle and lose fat. So that's the plan.

 

[josh223]

Doesn't matter. Pick one

Lots of people like it at end of cycle but its up to you.

IMO get more and run for 10-12 weeks!!

Test E Weeks 1-14
Anavar weeks 7-14 imo

you might want to get some prop for beginning because It's gonna take a while for the test to kick in.

 

[slair]

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if you backload, however long you decide to run the test, run the Anavar (var) 1 week longer since it has such a short ester. You can stop it for 1 day and start pct the next.

kinda like: 1-14 test
8-15 var
16-19 pct


* also i know alot of people claim Anavar (var) is often underdosed, however i think you should get really decent gains on 50 mg as long as you are sure its totally legit var.

 

[Cruyff]

I've always had better luck with kickstarts than backload so I'd tack the Anavar (var) onto the front.

I'm always tired at the end of cycles even with a break in the middle so the extra gear has always done more for me at the front.

 

[pharaoh]

what about 16 weeks of test e with a 4 week dbol kick start and 6-8 week backload of Anavar (var).

I have the test e and dbol already thinking about picking up some var.

 

[crazyfmike]

You are good and lean so anything you do regarding "front or back" placement of the Anavar (var) is going to work fine and show everything.

 

[Jacked27]

Thanks guys.

So isn't the reasoning kind of true that the body gets used to a level of test, and upping midway in the cycle can push some last gains in the cycle? I've read this and even kind of felt it in my first cycle. (Gains super from weeks 3-8, then last four kinda meh).

 

[slair]

Thanks guys.

So isn't the reasoning kind of true that the body gets used to a level of test, and upping midway in the cycle can push some last gains in the cycle? I've read this and even kind of felt it in my first cycle. (Gains super from weeks 3-8, then last four kinda meh).

im running the exact same cycle as you as my second cycle right now. I'm waiting to run my Anavar (var) week 6-13 @ 50-75mg with my 600mg test-e/week cycle. Basically doing the same thing you are, keeping calories right around maintenance, keeping fat at bay while adding a little mass for the summer. Personally i'd rather be patient and wait for the test to kick in, and then run the Anavar (var) while the test is in full effect for best gains.

I've always felt like theres no point in running running a kickstart. For example, instead of running test 1-12 with a 4 week kicker of dbol, why not just run the test 16 weeks and drop the dbol. If im gonna stack, i want both compounds to be in full effect to gain their full advantage.

 

[Jacked27]

im running the exact same cycle as you as my second cycle right now. I'm waiting to run my Anavar (var) week 6-13 @ 50-75mg with my 600mg test-e/week cycle. Basically doing the same thing you are, keeping calories right around maintenance, keeping fat at bay while adding a little mass for the summer. Personally i'd rather be patient and wait for the test to kick in, and then run the Anavar (var) while the test is in full effect for best gains.

I've always felt like theres no point in running running a kickstart. For example, instead of running test 1-12 with a 4 week kicker of dbol, why not just run the test 16 weeks and drop the dbol. If im gonna stack, i want both compounds to be in full effect to gain their full advantage.

First off, judging from your avatar, you are in phenomenal shape for only one cycle under your belt! Nice work. Clearly doing something right.

I like your reasoning behind the Anavar (var) at the end, and also don't get the kick start need really. I understood my first cycle (and any thereafter) that I'd need to wait 14+ days to feel anything. That's all it took on my first to feel the more pumped feeling (prob the initial water weight gain).

Where I'm at now is wondering how long I'll run the cycle. I'm thinking 14-20 weeks with Test moving towards the end to 1cc a week vs 2cc's early/mid on. Just so I can cruise into PCT on a lower dose I guess. Maybe my reasoning isn't sound, but I figure 16 weeks @ 550 a week, then the last four at 275 will make it a more comfortable switch to being on PCT and off. Anavar (var) would end at week 16, so the Test E finishes me off.

Any thoughts? (anyone can chime in)

 

[slair]

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thanks man appreciate the kind words...you def look good for one cycle as well bro (no homo) lol.

Honestly i really don't understand people who say they don't even notice the test-e for 5-6 weeks. Maybe its because i have low natty test, but im 100% positive that i notice a large difference in the gym 2 weeks after first pin. Now it obviously gets better as the cycle goes on, but i know what test feels like. For example i did my third shot last thursday and 100% noticed it in the gym today. Theres really no mistaking it when you know what you feel like natty.

As for your lowering the dose before pct. That was really more something that people used to do before pct was even used (like schwarzenegger's time). The common belief now is that your pct will totally take care of recovery (or at least should), therefore you should keep the doseage constant throughout the cycle to keep blood levels stable (less sides).

Maybe the lower doseage before pct could help but i do know most people don't do that anymore. Up to you though man, other than that looks good. Good luck!