because of the risk involved,test the water slowley if something starts to go south you know what caused it,if you have a bad reaction, what would you do on your next cycle?it gives you a base of how to build your cycles to come,we all want it all right now, but you are better off to learn how your body reacts.majoris said:Guys,
I understand the one compound statement (reaction, being able to come off, etc.) but you only get one first TRUE cycle and I feel the above requested first "on" is a great basic first timer. You only get one first time, so why not sturate the receptors with stacking Test and Deca or Eq? I would hedge most here would wish they had done this if they only did Test alone....
majoris said:Guys,
I understand the one compound statement (reaction, being able to come off, etc.) but you only get one first TRUE cycle and I feel the above requested first "on" is a great basic first timer. You only get one first time, so why not sturate the receptors with stacking Test and Deca or Eq? I would hedge most here would wish they had done this if they only did Test alone....
im a test only fan for 1st time cycles . theres no reason anyone whos not allready at their genetic maxx cant make solid gains off 400-500 mg a week of test for 10-12 weeks . that being said IF and i say IF you have to throw in another compound eq would probablly be a really good choice . deca/tren can cause progesterone/prolactin troubles and if you have never run test you wont know if its the estrogen from test or the deca/tren causeing the sides/gyno . sus is just a blend of different test esters and its harder to maintain stable blood levels with it than eth/cyp unless you inject at least 3 times a week or eod so why not just use the cyp/eth instead . dbol is a oral and for a first time user 20-25 mg for 4-5 weeks is the most i would reccomend , dbol bloats SOME people much worse than test . at that dose and length why bother , just try the test and IF you just cant stand being conservative try 250 mg of eth every 3 days for 12 weeks . thats almost 600 mg a week for 12 weeks and if you donty make gains off of that on a 1st cycle you just didnt train/eat/rest worth a shit imo .jroger21 said:jesus im getting so many conflicting opinions. Some guys tell me Test-E with Eq is good because EQ helps appetite and increase collagen in the tendons. Others say Dec,sus,and dbol because Test-E alone wont give you gains like those and that you cant hold gains after TEST-E only cycle. Jesus. Im trusting in YOU the pros to give me the best answer thats why im open ears.
jroger21 said:Others say Dec,sus,and dbol because Test-E alone wont give you gains like those and that you cant hold gains after TEST-E only cycle. [\b]