Test E first then add Dbol? Good idea?

[super-pump]

Still debating on what to do for my first cycle...paying attention to all the advice I have been given about the first cycle being one drug only so if there are any side effects I know what's causing it. Well, I had thought about doing either dbol or test e alone but now I have another idea....Would it be okay for me to start test e and say, 2 or 3 weeks in, add dbol to the cycle? that way I will still know which causes side effects for me and get even better results.....what's your stand on this?

 

[glubgawd]

Still debating on what to do for my first cycle...paying attention to all the advice I have been given about the first cycle being one drug only so if there are any side effects I know what's causing it. Well, I had thought about doing either dbol or test e alone but now I have another idea....Would it be okay for me to start test e and say, 2 or 3 weeks in, add dbol to the cycle? that way I will still know which causes side effects for me and get even better results.....what's your stand on this?

Who put this idea in your head? Just because you're taking more compounds doesn't mean you're going to get better results.

Not to mention, you'd be better off spending that money on food since you're pretty skinny.

Stick with test e only cycle. I promise you'll love the gains.

 

[super-pump]

pretty skinny? i'm 5'10 175 lbs....hardly skinny but the reason I would like to add the dbol is to gain a little more size as i would like to top out around 200 lbs.

 

[glubgawd]

pretty skinny? i'm 5'10 175 lbs....hardly skinny but the reason I would like to add the dbol is to gain a little more size as i would like to top out around 200 lbs.

That actually makes it worse. I thought you were 185lbs and 5'10.

Like I said, more compounds doesn't mean more gains. You're so far from your natural potential that, assuming you learn how to eat, you'll already gain way more than you can keep with test e alone.

Also, you're not going to go from 175-200lbs in 1 cycle. You might with the added water weight, but you almost guaranteed won't sit at +25lbs after PCT.

 

[super-pump]

oh i'm 100% aware that I wont gain that much in one cycle and I know it doesnt seem like it but I do know how to eat to keep weight. I keep track of my calories every day using the "daily plate"...during mass gain phases I aim to eat around 4000 per day and my breakdown % of carbs, fat, and protein is usually very close to ideal. If I were to do this cycle how would you recommend I do it? there seems to be differing opinions...

 

[BSchmidt350z]

oh i'm 100% aware that I wont gain that much in one cycle and I know it doesnt seem like it but I do know how to eat to keep weight. I keep track of my calories every day using the "daily plate"...during mass gain phases I aim to eat around 4000 per day and my breakdown % of carbs, fat, and protein is usually very close to ideal. If I were to do this cycle how would you recommend I do it? there seems to be differing opinions...

Here ill play the role of newbie advising the other newbie.

First of all I think ur an idiot if you think there are "differing opinions"

You clearly have not done enough research which means you are not ready.

The #1 absolutely overwhelmingly popular recommendation for first cycle is Test E/C for 12 weeks 500 Mg week. 250 Mon AM, 250 Thurs PM.

If your gonna be thick headed (like me) and do what u want anyway, add Dbol weeks 1-4 or 1-4 @ 30-40 per day.

I REPEAT, it is suggested to start with TEST ONLY..

do what u want, its ur body.

 

[TheAdversary]

Here ill play the role of newbie advising the other newbie.

First of all I think ur an idiot if you think there are "differing opinions"

You clearly have not done enough research which means you are not ready.

The #1 absolutely overwhelmingly popular recommendation for first cycle is Test E/C for 12 weeks 500 Mg week. 250 Mon AM, 250 Thurs PM.

If your gonna be thick headed (like me) and do what u want anyway, add Dbol weeks 1-4 or 1-4 @ 30-40 per day.

I REPEAT, it is suggested to start with TEST ONLY..

do what u want, its ur body.

that about does it for this thread.

 

[Cobra Strike]

that about does it for this thread.

No it doesnt...Dont take the dbol...and 1-4 weeks is retarded....and helping someone fuck themselves up is retarded...if you think that saying "here is what you do and fuck yourself up if you want" then that is bad advice...if you dont care that someone fucks themselves up then there is no need to add your shitty 2 cents..IMO

to the op...you are a skinny fucker...175 seriously??? you dont eat 4000 cals a day and weight 175. and you mentioned thinking about running either dbol or test...no orals only bro...and 2-3 weeks isnt enough to guage sides...your body cleaves the esters of sus at different rates and its compounding throughout the cycle so run the ten or twelve week cycle of test first and then see if you get sides..

but dont listen to me cause THEADVERSARY learned not to!!

 

[ripxtide]

I keep track of my calories every day using the "daily plate"...during mass gain phases I aim to eat around 4000 per day and my breakdown % of carbs, fat, and protein is usually very close to ideal.

what's the "daily plate"?

 

[Cobra Strike]

what's the "daily plate"?

Im assuming its an app on his phone

 

[TheAdversary]

but dont listen to me cause THEADVERSARY learned not to!!

awww little buddy are you still butthurt about your last thread?

lol and if you would have actually READ what BSchmidt wrote you would have realized that he recommended a test only 1st cycle...meaning don't take the dbol.

It appears reading comprehension and post count are completely uncorrelated here.

 

[Cobra Strike]

awww little buddy are you still butthurt about your last thread?

lol and if you would have actually READ what BSchmidt wrote you would have realized that he recommended a test only 1st cycle...meaning don't take the dbol.

It appears reading comprehension and post count are completely uncorrelated here.

WOW...you are showing your stupidity left and right on this forum...Im pretty sure i said "and to the op..." (which is a reference to the person who started the thread)...then stated he was thinking about running a dbol only cycle...believe he said this "Well, I had thought about doing either dbol or test e alone..."

and I was calling bsschmidt out for offering weak advice to a guy that shouldnt use it...its morally and ethically wrong...but if you want to butt fuck him then its your life

You need to learn more than the basics before you start offering up advice bro

 

[Misc]

i think the OP is going to do whatever he wants regardless of what ppl are telling him.

With that said, my advice would be to get baseline bloodwork done before cycle and after post cycle therapy (pct). i learned my lesson with my PH cycle. i was dumb and only got my test levels checked and didn't get a hormone panel done and found out i had crazy high estro months after i finished my post cycle therapy (pct). i didnt find out until i went to get my baseline bloodwork for my test-e cycle.

 

[Cobra Strike]

i think the OP is going to do whatever he wants regardless of what ppl are telling him.

With that said, my advice would be to get baseline bloodwork done before cycle and after post cycle therapy (pct). i learned my lesson with my PH cycle. i was dumb and only got my test levels checked and didn't get a hormone panel done and found out i had crazy high estro months after i finished my post cycle therapy (pct). i didnt find out until i went to get my baseline bloodwork for my test-e cycle.

I agree. My theory though is to get people to go in the right direction...the best direction...so Im not going to tell a guy to run dbol or run 2 compounds at the same time on his first cycle...im just not going to contribute to stupidness...I will only give the best and proper advice

but thats just me...not everyone cares about another human being

 

[TheAdversary]

WOW...you are showing your stupidity left and right on this forum...Im pretty sure i said "and to the op..." (which is a reference to the person who started the thread)...then stated he was thinking about running a dbol only cycle...believe he said this "Well, I had thought about doing either dbol or test e alone..."

Your response to me was "no it doesn't, don't take the dbol". That was clearly covered by Schmidt.

and I was calling bsschmidt out for offering weak advice to a guy that shouldnt use it...its morally and ethically wrong...but if you want to butt fuck him then its your life

Morals and ethics? Given that I've read nearly every thread in the last 5 pages on this subforum (and many others) I don't think you're in much of a position to argue from the point of morals and ethics.

Besides, what's weak about telling someone to run only test e/c for their 1st cycle? I'm pretty sure that's what DocJ said to do.

You need to learn more than the basics before you start offering up advice bro

I didn't offer up any advice, I simply agreed with what someone else had posted and I still do.

The #1 absolutely overwhelmingly popular recommendation for first cycle is Test E/C for 12 weeks 500 Mg week. 250 Mon AM, 250 Thurs PM.

If your gonna be thick headed (like me) and do what u want anyway, add Dbol weeks 1-4 or 1-4 @ 30-40 per day.

I REPEAT, it is suggested to start with TEST ONLY..

do what u want, its ur body.

but I guess in your mind agreeing with someone equals buttfucking them. I'm pleased that we never see eye to eye brah.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Your response to me was "no it doesn't, don't take the dbol". That was clearly covered by Schmidt.



Morals and ethics? Given that I've read nearly every thread in the last 5 pages on this subforum (and many others) I don't think you're in much of a position to argue from the point of morals and ethics.

Besides, what's weak about telling someone to run only test e/c for their 1st cycle? I'm pretty sure that's what DocJ said to do.



I didn't offer up any advice, I simply agreed with what someone else had posted and I still do.



but I guess in your mind agreeing with someone equals buttfucking them. I'm pleased that we never see eye to eye brah.

god dam your fucked up...your twisting up all my words like a fuckin woman...No it doesnt was only meant for you ...and like you so cleverly figured out the rest was for schmidt

aas morals and ethics bro...not the decisions I make in my own life morals and ethics...

and Im not arguing the fact that he stated to run test for the first cycle...im arguing that he didnt need to give the kid advice on taking dbol when everyone on this forum knows thats not correct

 

[Cobra Strike]

I will sit here all day and argue with you if you want adversary...but the fact remains that you have yet to give anything better than basic advice...and yes I have been reading your simpleton posts...fuckin learn some shit and earn some respect before you start poppin off newb

 

[TheAdversary]

and Im not arguing the fact that he stated to run test for the first cycle...im arguing that he didnt need to give the kid advice on taking dbol when everyone on this forum knows thats not correct

Fair enough.

It certainly didn't appear that way when I read the initial response but if that's seriously your concern then I have no problem with that. For me, I know how I was when I was young and I sure as hell didn't listen to what anybody had to say. In that respect, I thought Schmidt offered up solid advice under the assumption that the op was going to do it anyway.

No worries mate.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Ya I was the same way...rj reamed my fuckin ass when I told him what my first cycle was...I had like 2 posts then...then I was like fuck off you dont know shit...thats when my investigating started...and I found out that I was the hard headed fuck and he was right...I know how guys are when they get their mind set on something...it all sounds awsome and they dont want to believe that it can hurt them....I know my morals and ethics in my life are fucked up...but I do care wether some one is running chances with fucking up their hormones for possibly the rest of their life...I guess Im pretty strongly opinionated on that aspect...Im going into the medical field and care for the patient always comes first so maybe thats where I get my compasion...either way...I just want people to do things the right way...

"No worries mate." x2

 

[UserAt204]

Can you two hug and make up already. Maybe adversary will let you borrow his vajazzler.

Ha ha. Cobra is pretty opinionated if he thinks someone is going to screw themselves up. Gotta respect that!!