test e or test c
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TheMilkMan
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The esters are virtually identical, therefore they have essentially the same effects in the body.
Test E is generally dosed a little bit higher than Test C because the hormone has a lower melting point.
Like everyone has said, use whatever you can get for cheaper per milligram.
Test E is generally dosed a little bit higher than Test C because the hormone has a lower melting point.
Like everyone has said, use whatever you can get for cheaper per milligram.
StoneColdNTO
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Nope....you are mistaken.
TheGroupa
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Test E and Test C are different, not much, but different. example, Test E with Test Prop works much better in combination then test C and Prop. "This is a fact"
Test E Chemical Structure C7H14O2* “Delatestryl” this has no BB in it
Test C *Chemical Structure C8H14O2* “Depo-Testosterone this product contains 15% Benzoal B
Personal Test E works way better for me then test C. they do react differently when binding to the AR receptor. and they do react differently when stacked.
Test E Chemical Structure C7H14O2* “Delatestryl” this has no BB in it
Test C *Chemical Structure C8H14O2* “Depo-Testosterone this product contains 15% Benzoal B
Personal Test E works way better for me then test C. they do react differently when binding to the AR receptor. and they do react differently when stacked.
GymLift
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Facts can be proven. How is this proven?
GymLift
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Really, where do you get this shit from?
The liver REMOVES the esters. The result from both Test C and Test E? ORDINARY NO-ESTER TESTOSTERONE.
StoneColdNTO
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Yeah, I'd like to know this as well because it is very hard to believe.
GymLift
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Actually, Depo-testosterone 100mg/mL contains 10% BB and the more common 200mg/mL contains 20% BB.
http://www.pfizer.com/files/products/uspi_depo_testosterone.pdf
TheGroupa
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Actually your Testy Cyp is a depot injection, no proof needed, Maybe in the US its 10% BB in all other countries it's 15% for it's ability to bind slowly to the AR , Test E has no Toxic solvents except 1% BA. not to mention the ester is not the same.
Test C was prompted for male birth-control and test replacement therapy, the proof is in the Ester! it is different period. what more do you need?
BTW the liver dose not remove the esters ability to bind to the AR receptor. if that was the case why ester-fie?
Test C was prompted for male birth-control and test replacement therapy, the proof is in the Ester! it is different period. what more do you need?
BTW the liver dose not remove the esters ability to bind to the AR receptor. if that was the case why ester-fie?
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Die$eL~Man
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test is test bro....
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yup either cyp or enan they are both long esters
Ozzy27
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GymLift
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Everything injected with an ester attached is a depot injection.
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"Depo Tesosterone" is a brand name owned by Pfizer. It is 10% BB for 100mg/mL and 20% BB for 200mg/mL. If you see something else, then it isn't brand-name depo testosterone.
Regardless, the BB has nothing to do with the "ability to slowly bind to the AR" as you state. You obviously have no idea how this works.
Test E doesn't require BB and I don't use BB but many test E preparations use BB anyway. The ester is different. Nobody argues that.
The reason no BB is not required is very simple: Test E has a lower melting point.
But BB or lack or BB doesn't determine if the injection is a depot injection or not. What, do you think only Test C is a depot injection because of the brand name being "depo testosterone"?
There have been various studies about using various testosterone preparations for male birth control but that has nothing to do with this.
In the US, testosterone cypionate is typically used for TRT. Internationally, testosterone enanthate is commonly used. Why? Historical reasons, not scientific.
All that you've shown me is that you've taken a little bit of information and incorrectly extrapolated it into utter non-sense.
The "esters ability to bind to the AR receptor"!? wtf. The ester doesn't attach to any receptor.
So listen and maybe you will learn something. The reason esters are added is to create a time-release depot within the muscle. You inject it into the muscle. The esters determine how long it takes the body to remove the hormone from the depot. Inject testosterone propionate and most of the depot will be gone in just a few days. Inject testosterone undecanoate and it'll take weeks.
Once the esterized molecules leave the depot they obviously enter the serum and they'll inevitably pass through the liver, perhaps multiple times. The liver removes the esters until all that is left is an ordinary testosterone molecule with any ester attached. The hormone is now active to attach to receptors.
This is science. Any qualified physician will understand about esters and the liver and that much.
You on the other hand don't know what the hell you're talking about and so please don't talk about facts and make ridiculous statements as you have when you haven't a clue.
You talk about facts and proof. You lack both. All that I see are inaccuracies based on a loose notion (eg clueless) of the science.
TheGroupa
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New to your forum but far from Newbie, I trained myself in English, I am A Lic pharmacologist in my country, I also hold law degrees in both common law and Neapolitan Law. I have studied worked with and used AS well over 25 years. Some one wants proof, Testosterone is testosterone, it is the ester the defines this anabolic androgen and how reacts with your AR receptors. this is the reason for esters! Test E and Test c is no different then Deca "Chemical Structure C10H20O2" and EQ "Chemical Structure C11H20O2" by that i mean the ester is 1 carbon atom different, but yet the formula reacts very different in the body, both long chain, it does not matter they are long chain, what matters is the carbon atoms that are employed within the formula. most Americans buy and can only get bathtub product "exceptions of course" but by the commits that have been made, i see most do not understand the base line formulas and why they have been developed in the first place. go back and do some home work, esters make all the difference in Testosterone, and all other formulas. the proof is in the science! also when stacking you are inducing satellite cell activation as well as promoting protein synthesis. this is why and how a proper stack must be produced. once again Test e and Test Prop work 100% better in a stack then Test C would. you will never see a true Lic anabolic combo of test c and Test P.
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the reason for esters is to allow time release and keep the blood levels of the compound steady without frequent injections........................... and according to you they change the effects of the hormone into something else???? deca eq and test are the same what defines them is the ester.WTF?? please enlighten me... because your claims seem ridiculous.
ps don't spout off about your credentials. just show proof of what you are saying. otherwise it is complete bullshit.
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