Test E or Test P for first cycle?

[blackrose9]

Hiya,

Planning my first cycle and have now settled for a Test only for 12 weeks. I was going for Test E but someone has suggested that Test P would be better.

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Ythrashin]

I'd go with Test E for a first cycle.
EOD pinning can suck.

For a first time user with virgin muscle it can suck bad.

 

[drewbolic]

What type of goals are you tryin to achieve?
If trying to bulk up I'd go with enthanate.Propoinate is much leaner less water retention but as ythrashin said pinning every other day with the prop can suck.Enthanate you can pin twice a week @250 for first cycle.

 

[blackrose9]

What type of goals are you tryin to achieve?
If trying to bulk up I'd go with enthanate.Propoinate is much leaner less water retention but as ythrashin said pinning every other day with the prop can suck.Enthanate you can pin twice a week @250 for first cycle.

Hoping for 10 to 20 lb.

 

[drewbolic]

Hoping for 10 to 20 lb.

12wks test-e 500mg ew div.into 2 injections @250

 

[DADAWG]

What type of goals are you tryin to achieve?
If trying to bulk up I'd go with enthanate.Propoinate is much leaner less water retention but as ythrashin said pinning every other day with the prop can suck.Enthanate you can pin twice a week @250 for first cycle.

the ester [ prop/eth ] does not cause water retention , the test does. eth can and will build up in the system over the weeks which gives you more available test to aromatize.

 

[Massive123]

I'd normally agree with test e BUT I've read so many annoying posts recently with guys posting again & again that they're waiting for test to kick in I might say man up, deal with eod I injections & run prop. At least you'll feel the gear within the first week & can get right to business instead of waiting 6 weeks to maybe feel something

 

[pump_past50]

I'd normally agree with test e BUT I've read so many annoying posts recently with guys posting again & again that they're waiting for test to kick in I might say man up, deal with eod I injections & run prop. At least you'll feel the gear within the first week & can get right to business instead of waiting 6 weeks to maybe feel something

Damn, I hope I don't have to wait 6 weeks!!!!

 

[Ythrashin]

You shouldnt have to...

 

[DADAWG]

I'd normally agree with test e BUT I've read so many annoying posts recently with guys posting again & again that they're waiting for test to kick in I might say man up, deal with eod I injections & run prop. At least you'll feel the gear within the first week & can get right to business instead of waiting 6 weeks to maybe feel something

give me a break . most of the guys whining about test e taking to long ars shocked they cant make massive gains on beer and pizza.newbies shouldnt try short ester gear , to much pinning.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I might say man up, deal with eod I injections & run prop.

Besides what DADAWG already mentioned, there is another major flaw in your reasoning.

Most newbies are only comfortable injecting in their glutes so now you are advocating them to do EOD injects with only two injection sites and that will without a doubt at least lead to some nice sterile abcesses.

 

[Ythrashin]

give me a break . most of the guys whining about test e taking to long ars shocked they cant make massive gains on beer and pizza.newbies shouldnt try short ester gear , to much pinning.

Bam! I think he hit the nail on the head...

 

[drewbolic]

Hiya,

Planning my first cycle and have now settled for a Test only for 12 weeks. I was going for Test E but someone has suggested that Test P would be better.

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance.

W.Llewellyn ANABOLICS 2009
Testosterone propionate is, therefore, comparatively much faster-acting than other testosterone esters such as cypionate or enanthate, and requires a much more frequent dosing schedule. By most accounts testosterone propionate is an older and cruder form of injectable testosterone, made obsolete by the slower-acting and more comfortable esters that were developed subsequent to it. Still, those who are not bothered by the frequent injection schedule find testosterone propionate every bit as acceptable. As an injectable testosterone, it is a powerful mass-building drug, capable of producing rapid gains in both muscle size and strength.

 

[Massive123]

It's def a lot of pinning but look at the kids reaction... He's buggin already about waiting 6 weeks.... I agree I wouldn't suggest prop for a standard first timer but all I'm sayin is if he's the type that isn't afraid of shooting or a little discomfort from pain for the first couple of shots prop is definitely a better choice

if you're the gentile type and don't mind waiting at least a month- go with the test e or c. If you do use the e, please spare us with the how long till it kicks in posts...it will take a while

 

[Massive123]

Besides what DADAWG already mentioned, there is another major flaw in your reasoning.

Most newbies are only comfortable injecting in their glutes so now you are advocating them to do EOD injects with only two injection sites and that will without a doubt at least lead to some nice sterile abcesses.

Ohhh come on.... There are plenty of first timers who shoot in their quads anyway. 4 injection sites is plenty to avoid abcesses


You know what listen to them and avoid this stuff they're honestly right I was just trying to make a point about waiting. The choice is yours my dude

 

[jjtattoofreak]

Shit I aint shot in my ass, went straight for the quads and even starting delts... I am more afraid to shoot my ass cause its a pain to twist and shit... biceps next, maybe even calves.. Maybe some newbs are just chicken shits... I was scared ya but I was more scared trying to twist around with a needl in my fucking ass, legs seem to be easier . Just my oppinion..

 

[hellawaits77]

I had the same exact question. I've asked around, and it does seem that most dudes are advising Test E.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Ohhh come on.... There are plenty of first timers who shoot in their quads anyway.

Really ????

You honestly beleive that.......hahaha......that would be the exception to the norm.

I guess after you've read as many threads by newbies as I have over the years, you'd think differently.

Also, when I do EOD injects, I use 6 sites minimum, not only to avoid sterile abcesses but scar tissue as well.

 

[jjtattoofreak]

^^ There are alot of ass bangers but i for one chose quads, I like to be able to see and sit comfortably... But you have a point , most are scared of legs me personnaly I dont think I could ever do the ass pinning. I am more scared of that, but thats just me..

 

[Ythrashin]

I see many people getting on this forum and complaining about painful quad injects...

At least one a week on Ology alone...