Test. EQ. Anavar.

[Massive123]

what do you guys think about my upcoming cycle??

18 weeks test E- 500 mg/wk (250 t&th)
15 weeks EQ - 400mg/wk

To jumpstart and end strong
Anavar
weeks 1-4 20mg/day
weeks 14-18

This is my 4th cycle. Im currently 6"2 210lbs. I realize 18 weeks is kinda high but I see people claiming theyre on for years so I doubt a few extra weeks will cause much downside? Right?

Also, Ive used test dbol & deca in the past. Ive always used Clomid for PCT. Will this work for this cycle?

Clomid 200mg day 1
100mg/day days 2-7
50mg/day week 2-3

 

[evolvd]

18 weeks is long.

Make sure you use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all the way through @ 500iu 2 x week.

Start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last shot.

Anavar weeks 14-18 aren't that ness, unless you want to come up extra hard and vascular.

I'm doing something similar just switching to test p at the end so i can come off better.

 

[mutant boy]

If your splitting the shots up monday and thursday is better IMO.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I would not suggest running less than 50mg of Anavar a day.

 

[Massive123]

I would not suggest running less than 50mg of Anavar a day.

Really? I read some people use 30-40 mg a day with noticeable gains... I would love to do 50... shits just pricey as hell! I have really limited access to this and everything else which sucks...I can do more mg but it will mean over less time. After a last cycle Ive often thought I mightve done as well with less mg but for a longer period felt the gear in my system enhancing workouts, recovery, eating....

I could do 40mg a day but then I'd only have about 5 1/2 weeks on or total to split up. I thought splitting that up for a strong start & finish at a lower dose would be more effective than jumpstarting with it and then losing the hardness after week 5-6. Fortunately my body is responsive to things, so Im hoping it might work at a lower dose. I really wanted to do a cutting cycle but I love test & figured with good diet and anavar starting & ending + EQ it would be possible to get really good lean gains, and maybe cut down on fat too.

Could I throw in T3 or clen with this??

 

[evolvd]

If i were you i'd use the anavar at 50mg for the first 4 weeks of the cycle. It's going to take that long for the eq and test to kick in. Once they do you'll just get better and better. It is possible to get very lean and hard with this cycle, i've done it a few times before. just get your diet down and it will be smooth sailing. no need for t3 imo

 

[Massive123]

If i were you i'd use the anavar at 50mg for the first 4 weeks of the cycle. It's going to take that long for the eq and test to kick in. Once they do you'll just get better and better. It is possible to get very lean and hard with this cycle, i've done it a few times before. just get your diet down and it will be smooth sailing. no need for t3 imo

I appreciate your $.02... especially if youve done this cycle. I was thinking just now in the shower--

might it be better overall if I did 12 weeks of Test E rather than 18 but did the anavar 50mg/day weeks 1-4 & then 8-12??

 

[evolvd]

This is hoe i would do it-
week 1-13 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-16 eq @ 400mg
week 1-4 anavar @ 50mg ed
week 13-16 test p @ 150mg eod

hcg 500iu 2xweek all the way through cylce
nolva 20mg ed for 4 weeks
clomid 100mg ed for 2 weeks
*clomid and nolva start after last shot.

I've done this a few time and it has worked great (not so often with anavar, just because of poor availabilty)

 

[Massive123]

that sounds f'n legit bro!! I'm gonna go with that if I can get my hands on the test P.

I'll thank you now, and probably again later when I feel like Superman

thanks bro

 

[evolvd]

keep me posted bro

 

[Massive123]

18 weeks is long.

Make sure you use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all the way through @ 500iu 2 x week.

Ive noticed the IUs are sometimes 500, sometimes 5000. Are they the same thing, just labeled differently with each lab? If not, I can get 5000Iu individually....how many would I need?

Also, is it really necessary the entire way through. Woudlnt it make sense just to do from middle to end also??

 

[evolvd]

18 weeks is long.

Make sure you use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all the way through @ 500iu 2 x week.



Ive noticed the IUs are sometimes 500, sometimes 5000. Are they the same thing, just labeled differently with each lab?

Also, is it really necessary the entire way through. Woudlnt it make sense just to do from middle to end also??

Def not the same thing. Usually Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) comes in 500iu, 1500iu, and 5000iu strength per amp. you need to dose/split accordingly.

You run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all the way through so that the signal being sent to your balls to keep making test continues all the way through. Your guys will stay big and hanging low all the way through and you'll come off way better that way.

 

[Massive123]

if theyre 5000iu strength how would I split that up if its in 1 amp?? How much? How often? ETC....

 

[BalcoBob]

evolvd u always have great posts...repped!

 

[evolvd]

Thanks Balco- hopefully you guys can learn off my mistakes, do it the easy way and get HUGE

 

[rolltide23]

This is hoe i would do it-
week 1-13 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-16 eq @ 400mg
week 1-4 anavar @ 50mg ed
week 13-16 test p @ 150mg eod

hcg 500iu 2xweek all the way through cylce
nolva 20mg ed for 4 weeks
clomid 100mg ed for 2 weeks
*clomid and nolva start after last shot.

I've done this a few time and it has worked great (not so often with anavar, just because of poor availabilty)

You could also kickstart with prop wks 1-4 @ 150mg/eod and end with Anavar (var), since it's a good bridge to post cycle therapy (pct), like winstrol and masteron.

1-4 Prop 150mg/eod (525mg/wk)
1-17 Test E 500mg/wk
1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
18-20 Prop 150mg/eod
16-20 Var 50mg ed
21-27 post cycle therapy (pct) - aromasin/nolva protocol
3-20 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 250iu X 2 wk

This is similar to the cycle I'm about to start, except I'm going 14wks on the EQ... probably will leave the var out due to cost.

 

[FuckOprah]

This is hoe i would do it-
week 1-13 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-16 eq @ 400mg
week 1-4 anavar @ 50mg ed
week 13-16 test p @ 150mg eod

hcg 500iu 2xweek all the way through cylce
nolva 20mg ed for 4 weeks
clomid 100mg ed for 2 weeks
*clomid and nolva start after last shot.

I've done this a few time and it has worked great (not so often with anavar, just because of poor availabilty)

was that a typo? why would u stop the test p the week u stop the eq? if you switched over to test p for the last few weeks in the cycle might aswell keep shooting EOD up until 3days before PCT. Most people run test e/c 1 extra week over the eq. But the few that switch over to prop run it close to PCT. JMO, not trying to flame here.

and by the way, whats the reason behind choosing var? have u considered tbol or something along those lines? or even prop like someone else suggested.

 

[Massive123]

and by the way, whats the reason behind choosing var? have u considered tbol or something along those lines? or even prop like someone else suggested.

I was thinking var since Ive never used it and have read lots of good feedback on this and other boards. Seems good for developing strong, lean defined muscle & I was thinking with test and EQ it would be a good combo for bulking but with lean-mass gains. Truth is I really want to get ripped, Im pretty happy with myself now, but I know test is a good backbone and dont want to do a cycle without it... yet... If you could think of any better sounding cycles where I could get good mass but also burn fat and lean out & gain vascularity -- I'd definitely be open to any suggestions!

Never tried tbol or prop.

 

[FuckOprah]

well in that case i'd save a little bit of money grab tbol instead of var and run some clen throughout the cycle and get that diet straightened out. But it's all what you want to do sometimes there's no right or wrong answer just preference.

 

[evolvd]

keep it simple