Test only?

skUnky

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Would Test Enanthate be a good choice for a first cycle at 500 mg a week for 10 weeks, if so how would the sides be and would i need nolva for the gyno, what should i expect, its goin to be my first cycle ever, im 18 weigh 160, workin out for 4 years already. and what mg/ml should i take? thanks
 
Yes that would be a great first cycle, if not for the fact that you are only 18 and do NOT need steroids to grow.

Yiu have so much natural testosterone and HGH floating around your body right now, if you can not make good gains now, there is something wrong with your diet and / or training.
 
Here's a great article for your reading enjoyment...............

What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com the link is http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/age.htm

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (“growth plates”) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (“voicebox”) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later
 
Great first cycle.. I just got done doing mine. U will gain a significant amount of weight. I didnt experience hardly any sides besides a pimple or 2 on my back. but other sides could be a loss of hair, bloat, u should def have nolva on hand for gyno and HCG for your testis. I took enanthate at 250mg/ML. Took 2 shots a week. 250 mg on monday and 250on wendsday.. HCG on the weekends for 12 weeks.
 
that sounds great for a first cycle. great amount. i would take the test on m and thurs 250 each shoot to help keep the blood levels consistant. make sure that you have novadex, i would 10-20mg daily as a preventive. the only thing that i have a problem with is that i would not reconmend anyone do gear under 21, because your body is not done growing physically and mentally.
 
skUnky said:
eny other opinions on what mg/ml i should take? just to get an all around opinion.


This is what makes me laugh when you young guys come on here all gung-ho about jumping into things, when in reality you don't have a clue........

Do you even know what you just asked ??

mg/ml is a ratio of how much steroid by mass (mg) is in a given amount of volume (ml).

So as you can see your question makes no sense at all........

You might think that I'm being hard on you, well it's for your own good. It is up to you to educate yourself before injecting anything into your body.
 
skUnky said:
And where can i get nolva do i have to order it online or can i get it at a nutiriton store?


Do you know how much Nolva you'll even need ??

What are you using for post cycle therapy (pct) ??
 
Sorry man, dont they make it in like 100, 250, 300, and ima take 10 mg of nolva ED. I know its for my own good im just tryin to learn as much as i can b4 i take it.
 
skUnky said:
Sorry man, dont they make it in like 100, 250, 300, and ima take 10 mg of nolva ED. I know its for my own good im just tryin to learn as much as i can b4 i take it.


Sure they make it in different concentrations........but what does that have to do with the price of eggs ??

Suppose you want to do a cycle of 500mg/week, if you use a steroid @ 100mg/ml, you need to take 5 ml/week to = 500....if you use one that is 200mg/ml, you'll need to inject 2.5 ml/week.....get it ??

Why would you take Nolvadex @ 10mg/day ?? There is no sense taking it during a cycle unless you start having problems with gyno, and then 10mg/day is not going to cut it.

What about post cycle therapy (pct) ??......you haven't answered that one yet.
 
Ok i get u now. ive been hearing all these things about PCT, im not gonna lie to u, i really dont know what that is, i need some help in figuring all this out so i dont fuck my self over, and how many mg of nolva would cut it if i started knoticing the oncoming of gyno? Ur help is greatly appriciated. and if i did do the 500 mg a week should it b like that from start to finsh or should i start lower and work it up to 500? And im gonna trust u on this casue i see u alot on here ansering alot of questions, thanks man
 
There are two great threads on post cycle therapy (pct) here...
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=58
have a look thru them.......


Nolva for gyno; If you notice symptoms, take 40-60mg/day until symptoms subside, usually a few days, then continue taking 20mg/day for the duration of you cycle.

For a cycle of Test, you pick one dosage and run it all the way thru, there is no sense in pyramiding doses up and down.

Now, one final question from me to you. Did you even bother reading that article I posted "Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use" ????

Cause you do not meet requirement 1, 2, or 3. I'll give you the benifit of the doubt on #4.
 
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Skunky Stonecold is exactly right. I'd listen to everything he just posted. You need to read those articles, and do a lot more research on here before you start. You also need to wait a couple more years, you're too young whether you think you aren't or not. You don't even know what post cycle therapy (pct) is and you're gonna stick a needle in your body?
 
Hey stone thanks for ur help man, i apreciate it, i did look through the veterens guide and i read up on the post cycle therapy (pct). thanks again.
 
You probably won't listen, but hold off a few years. It's worth it, trust me. Just look at Needsize. He lifted for 10 years before juicing and he's massive.
 
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