Test Prop, Dbol first timer w/PICS

[popeye50]

Man...it doesn't look like you have any bloat at all. If anything, it looks as if you've leaned out comparably to your progress pics in post #9 (3rd pic compared to the 1st) I just started this exact cycle...great results thus far man.

Ya, thanks man...it's going good...strength is WAY up....Good luck and enjoy the ride!



UPDATE: Going into week 5 my appetite is just GONE, now I know what they mean about orals decreasing appetite! I will be out of the Dbols soon enough though. I'm gonna miss 'em for sure!!!

Nips have been getting sore the last few days...upped my Aromasin to 12.5 ed instead of eod, hope that will be enough....still not much bloat that I can notice....skins not to oily, no acne and no atrophy (maybe slightly). I was expecting some kind of sides. I certainly don't want them, but it just seems odd to me that I don't. IDK..

I am still up 15 lbs going on a little over 30 days, I'm feeling pretty solid....like its not just water weight. I feel like I've even lost some fat in the process!!!

Still hittin' hard...same old small gym....no new pics besides my avatar....I'm just gonna wait til there is a big difference...rather than post pics every 2 weeks, ( I'm kinda hatin all the pics I've posted!!.. i don't know why)....

Anyways....thanks for the support fellas

 

[popeye50]

I got my 5 week blood test results...

My estro is 139.4!!!!! I increased my Aromasin to 12.5mg ed about a week ago...apparently its not enough.

My liver values are higher than pre-cycle but still in normal range...drinking a TON of water, milk thistle and dandelion root.

Everything else was basically normal or just on the edge of being high...well except test >1500 and LH .1 FSH <.2

 

[infection]

I got my 5 week blood test results...

My estro is 139.4!!!!! I increased my Aromasin to 12.5mg ed about a week ago...apparently its not enough.

My liver values are higher than pre-cycle but still in normal range...drinking a TON of water, milk thistle and dandelion root.

Everything else was basically normal or just on the edge of being high...well except test >1500 and LH .1 FSH <.2

That's not too bad. I am looking at my lab results from before ever using gear, and it was 135pg/mL, which is 5 points above normal. 130pg/mL or less is recommended for males.

IGF was 217ng/mL, test was 423ng/mL, free test was 103.8pg/mL, lH was 8.4mIU/mL

I am starting a cycle post winter break, so I am interested to see where my levels go..

 

[popeye50]

That's not too bad. I am looking at my lab results from before ever using gear, and it was 135pg/mL, which is 5 points above normal. 130pg/mL or less is recommended for males.

IGF was 217ng/mL, test was 423ng/mL, free test was 103.8pg/mL, lH was 8.4mIU/mL

I am starting a cycle post winter break, so I am interested to see where my levels go..

I'm not sure what levels you are comparing....males at LabCorp for normal estra is 7.6-42.6 pg/ml !!!!! 140 is more than 3X that amount

And I was at 14.2 pg/ml pre-cycle five weeks ago...140 is 10X that amount!!....that is BAD!....damn...my nips hurt...i need to relax....LOL

 

[infection]

I'm not sure what levels you are comparing....males at LabCorp for normal estra is 7.6-42.6 pg/ml !!!!! 140 is more than 3X that amount

And I was at 14.2 pg/ml pre-cycle five weeks ago...140 is 10X that amount!!....that is BAD!....damn...my nips hurt...i need to relax....LOL

hmm, I just checked a few other test 'normatives' and I guess I was pretty damn high! Guess I need to take care of that. It's kind of bizarre that the Quest Diagnostics range went to 130 for normal levels. I am only 26, so it should be much lower. Thanks for pointing that out.

Do you think a week of clomid would do the trick?

 

[popeye50]

hmm, I just checked a few other test 'normatives' and I guess I was pretty damn high! Guess I need to take care of that. It's kind of bizarre that the Quest Diagnostics range went to 130 for normal levels. I am only 26, so it should be much lower. Thanks for pointing that out.

Do you think a week of clomid would do the trick?

Labs have different testing references for the specific way they measure it....if you are only 5 over for quest and there ref is 130 and lower...you should be good

I am going to switch back to my adex 1mg ed for 1 week see how I feel, gonna try to get bloods again in a week or so

Hopefully it will knock the estro into range and I can lower 1mg ed to 1mg eod or something along those lines....

I'll just have to wait and see...wish me luck

 

[infection]

Labs have different testing references for the specific way they measure it....if you are only 5 over for quest and there ref is 130 and lower...you should be good

I am going to switch back to my adex 1mg ed for 1 week see how I feel, gonna try to get bloods again in a week or so

Hopefully it will knock the estro into range and I can lower 1mg ed to 1mg eod or something along those lines....

I'll just have to wait and see...wish me luck

Hey man, I hope that works for you. Maybe try Femara if you need a super potent AI?