Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
there you go, I sifted through the bullshit and highlighted to anyone reading this why your theories are flawed. I also make note that testing efficacy by sides is a horrible idea.
Test/tren/proviron transdermal + var/halo/mdht
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there you go, I sifted through the bullshit and highlighted to anyone reading this why your theories are flawed. I also make note that testing efficacy by sides is a horrible idea.
I'm not following. You just highlighted a link halfwit gave which doesn't really apply. Steady state 24hrs with little discomfort is a far cry from what I aimed to achieve. If I left dmso on for 24hrs it would probably peel the skin off.
As far as I'm aware, everyone uses side effects to gauge dosage. If they are too extreme we back off. If they are mild and unnoticeable we maintain or increase the dosage. I've run enough tren to know where to stay to keep the insomnia and hpb at bay.
As for the other quotes I don't get your point. And if you want to be useful, bold it in context without leaving out vital bits.
As far as I'm aware, everyone uses side effects to gauge dosage. If they are too extreme we back off. If they are mild and unnoticeable we maintain or increase the dosage. I've run enough tren to know where to stay to keep the insomnia and hpb at bay.
As for the other quotes I don't get your point. And if you want to be useful, bold it in context without leaving out vital bits.
halfwit
I like turtles.
*sigh*
I came into your thread because I actually have a scientific curiosity when I see things being done differently. I wanted to help clear up a few items you were hanging onto likely because of misinformation, and even provided a link with a quote proving my statement.
I have taken four years of mathematics and two in chemistry. I'm pretty familiar with how pharmacokinetics work, and have even modeled the exponential decay of several esters (the hormone itself is irrelevant largely) on excel for members to better understand injection protocols.
I have spent over six years living and breathing this stuff as it has had such a large impact on my life, so I would be quite amazed if you could even begin to educate me in the slightest.
I don't like to brag, I don't like to be negative, but you're clearly one of those poor individuals that feels it is necessary to win a debate by being negative. So instead of having an intellectual debate, I have to think about ways to retort to your amazing visual regarding fingering buttholes.
Please feel free to continue with your exploits because you're too much of a vagina to inject hormones as intended. Please feel free wasting raws because you enjoy a 1:15 ratio (at best) of hormone applied vs absorbed.
I thought about ways to demean you in a retaliatory fashion, but I'm already bored here. Enjoy the Saran wrap on your feet and lack of any real progress.
Your link provided nothing, alcohol gel does not equal dmso.
How does 4 years of math and chemistry equate to pharmacokinetics? I took 2 years of chemistry in my core curriculum. Neither of which was organic.
6 years? Let me treat you like a mod now.
Still can't catch the point of the experiment. Who in their right mind would think it's okay for everyone to buy and inject drugs they bought from a stranger. Someone they never met. I'm only trying to help those who may need it.
Really? I've posted proof of my progress. Have you ever? Best thing you've said was that you're bored. Which I hope means you won't be back to pollute my thread.
Milton
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a week off should cool this guys heels.
halfwit
I like turtles.
Ok, so I guess you're dense. I guess I have to post again (you win).
According to your own words, you started at about 55lbs of fat. You dropped 12lbs in two months and supposedly 9% of that being body fat. That would give you about 33lbs of body fat total. That's a net loss of 22lbs of body fat and a gain of 10lbs of lean mass. I'm being generous here.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that you actually lost 14lbs of body fat, and gained 2lbs of lean mass. That's realistic given the numbers unless you're still making noob gains. You proved that you like to embellish if anything.
Testim (just the first example I pulled) is actually comprised of:
Guess what the transdermal ingredients are.
Now, what makes DMSO different? ESPECIALLY when we're talking about fat soluble hormones?
The efficacy will be less than an alcohol based carrier. This is why it's recommended to use it in conjunction with a glycol based carrier. I could link studies (it's been around for over 50 years) ad infinitum showing how this is the case, but Google can do that for me.
My education served as a foundation in learning how to study and understand scientific papers. As most of this material is covered in general chem, taking organic beyond an introductory course isn't really needed unless trying to actually develop formulations. Even then, that's just a matter of spending time reading.
So let's talk safety. I choose to inject a hormone dissolved in an oil carrier with a biocidal agent and preservative. The raws will likely be no different than what you purchase on your own from China. The raws and what else is added in cross our skin barrier and make their way into our blood stream. So if there's any worries about a nasty bug or contaminant being mixed in - we're both equally fucked.
Except I can filter mine with ease if so inclined. They're cheap and easy to use. I just happen to trust my sources,, so I forego this additional protective step. This is likely possible with a transdermal, although DMSO does have a reactive component that one must take into account as it can permeate viral sheaths and interact in various ways.
So your progress is akin to what the average Joe can do with a proper diet and exercise. If you had posted blood work (ya know, actual quantifiable data?), I'd have totally taken a different stance. Instead I get, "cuz the sides are there bro!"
My results aren't the focus of this thread, but I can tell you that I've lost more fat than you weigh in total, can bench two hundred more pounds than you, was deadlifting 120lbs more than you at 17, and can most certainly say that my progress has been a hard fought victory that is still very active. I focus on hypertrophy, yet I'm moving vastly larger quantities of weight; still want to compare dicks?
I'm sad that I thought this was going to be an intellectual debate in which I could learn something new. Instead, I get the temper tantrum of a grown man. I'm very disappointed, and yes - still bored. On the bright side, you did get me to elicit an emotional response, congratulations.
halfwit
I like turtles.
According to your own words, you started at about 55lbs of fat. You dropped 12lbs in two months and supposedly 9% of that being body fat. That would give you about 33lbs of body fat total. That's a net loss of 22lbs of body fat and a gain of 10lbs of lean mass. I'm being generous here.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that you actually lost 14lbs of body fat, and gained 2lbs of lean mass. That's realistic given the numbers unless you're still making noob gains. You proved that you like to embellish if anything.
It's one thing to suggest different percentages based on my before and after pics I posted in my album. However, I don't think you actually took a look in there. I believe I went from 220 at 25% to 209 at roughly 16 or so. I pull from the ground just about everyday so my back is quite overdeveloped in terms of bodybuilding symmetry. So my bf% test a bit lower than a frontal portrait will appear to show.
So your progress is akin to what the average Joe can do with a proper diet and exercise. If you had posted blood work (ya know, actual quantifiable data?), I'd have totally taken a different stance. Instead I get, "cuz the sides are there bro!"
My results aren't the focus of this thread, but I can tell you that I've lost more fat than you weigh in total, can bench two hundred more pounds than you, was deadlifting 120lbs more than you at 17, and can most certainly say that my progress has been a hard fought victory that is still very active. I focus on hypertrophy, yet I'm moving vastly larger quantities of weight; still want to compare dicks?
Who said anything about comparing dicks? I asked if you have ever posted progress pics. If you haven't a simply no will suffice.
When have I posted my bench press numbers or my deadlift numbers? Are you confusing push press with bench press and snatch grid deads with deadlifts? That's not something a seasoned lifter would do which I find kinda strange. Also, I snatch grip 600+ which intuitively should inform you that my deadlift max is well into the 700's. Are you suggesting that you deadlifted over 850lbs at 17? That would put you above Mark Henry's world record.
I had to clarify these asinine remarks before I actually spent time adding to the more useful information you posted, which I do appreciate.
Milton
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Gave you a week off, and you come back talking shit right off the bat. Later.
oldmusclemike
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I burst out loud when I read the above and looking at the Avi. Oh my old buddy the cat in the hat... ah hahahaaa1
As dumb as this thread seemed to me it was very entertaining. Shame on you 9er with you attitude towards gay's , hahahaaa, I like it LOL.
Halfwit your sarcasm is great, haa LOL and I did. I have a lot of respect for the mathematical minds and their ability to be analytical and focused. My dad an MD also was a mathematician with a photographic memory and one sister was a math teacher and also in the genius category. I
what happened to me lol 
So I did understand very much what you were getting at with your sharing some of your education halfwit. There is also something to be said about real common sense and analytical understanding in which I don't think OP has much of.
That's my 2 cents for this thread.
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oldmusclemike
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Can someone tell me what is unsafe about injecting. ????
