Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) injections twice per week instead of once?

[Gr8Wall]

TRT injections twice per week instead of once?

Just got some good advice on here but would love to hear more about twice a week injections. So bsically with twice per week according to what i read i could expect to keep estrogen under control better and use less Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage? Also could injections also be Sub Q since the anount would be so small or do you feel they really need to be IM? Thanks for any input and help again guys!

 

[theguy9129]

I would guess shot location and size of syringe would depending on your dosage as if your on 200 per week i cant see pushing 100 through a small small needle. From what I read it could help keep your E more in balance but wont for sure elmininate the need for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I have thought about doing shots twice per week instead of once, but the draw backs for me are that for one its more time dealing with it getting the stuff out, and if on vacation finding privacy and carrying more equipment. Also personally I worry about scar tissue build up over time.

 

[Gr8Wall]

scar tissue buildup was a concern of mine as well with twice weekly, good point.

 

[boaterkevin]

I started with a single IM injection of 200mg/Test C once per week. After the first month I split it into 2 injections at the direction of the online clinic I was with at the time. Fast forward several months and my Total Test was 1685, Free T was 672 and Estrodiol was 70. I was prescribed Anastrozole (Arimidex) at 1.25mg/week (.25mg for 5 days) and my Test dose was lowered to 140mg/wk. I just had bloodwork done this morning for my 8 month check and I'm curious to see my current levels. I feel like I've drifted through the "sweet spot" and I'm betting my Test is below 600 and estro below 15. If my guess is accurate, I intend to increase my Test C back up to 180 or 200mg/wk but split it into 3 injections and reduce my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to .25mg twice/wk. All at the direction of my doctor of course... As far as SubQ or IM, I've asked my doctor (both my original online clinic and current Doc) and was told IM was best but there have been studies on SubQ that showed promise. As long as you do not asperate the needle to vigorously (or at all, I don't) you should not build up too much scar tissue.

 

[mlitt12345]

Just got some good advice on here but would love to hear more about twice a week injections. So bsically with twice per week according to what i read i could expect to keep estrogen under control better and use less Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage? Also could injections also be Sub Q since the anount would be so small or do you feel they really need to be IM? Thanks for any input and help again guys!

Everyone is gonna be a little different. I would suggest starting out with a e5d or e7d protocol.....4 to 6 weeks later get a blood test.....also how do you feel at this time should be a deciding factor. Only change your shot frequency if you need to. If I could get away with once a week I would do so. You got to tweak and dial that protocol in..........

 

[mlitt12345]

scar tissue buildup was a concern of mine as well with twice weekly, good point.

This was a concern of mine also.....from my experience you need multiple pin locations to minimize scar tissue. I personally pin glutes, delts and quads......there is also the right way and lots of wrong ways to pin.....you tube is your friend to learning proper injection techniques.....

 

[BigFella]

If you pin twice as often then you'll inject half as much, which to me says there will be less chance of scarring.

 

[dfeaton]

You can also back load slin pins to keep scar tissue to a minimum. I have been doing this works great with delt injections.

 

[mlitt12345]

You can also back load slin pins to keep scar tissue to a minimum. I have been doing this works great with delt injections.

I just might try this route also...are those 31g.......I bet it takes a while to inject though

 

[corvettels3]

I just might try this route also...are those 31g.......I bet it takes a while to inject though

No, due to the pressure of a small barrel it's goes in faster than a 25g.

 

[mlitt12345]

No, due to the pressure of a small barrel it's goes in faster than a 25g.

Good to know will definitely check into this......Thanks

 

[Gr8Wall]

You can also back load slin pins to keep scar tissue to a minimum. I have been doing this works great with delt injections.

Im sorry im an idiot but what exactly is back loading? I realize a slin pin is super small but i dont understand the back loading thing? Thanks for the info everyone!

 

[wtgrantham]

Im sorry im an idiot but what exactly is back loading? I realize a slin pin is super small but i dont understand the back loading thing? Thanks for the info everyone!

Backloading is the process of using a larger syringe with a larger needle to pull the proper amount of testosterone from the vial and then remove the plunger from the slin pin (not allowing the plunger to touch anything so it remains sterile) and filling the smaller syringe from the backside with the larger set up. You just have to be careful when reinserting the plunger not to "squirt" the test out.

 

[Gr8Wall]

Backloading is the process of using a larger syringe with a larger needle to pull the proper amount of testosterone from the vial and then remove the plunger from the slin pin (not allowing the plunger to touch anything so it remains sterile) and filling the smaller syringe from the backside with the larger set up. You just have to be careful when reinserting the plunger not to "squirt" the test out.

Oh wow cool i got ya. Thank you so much it makes sense now!

 

[zgx]

No, due to the pressure of a small barrel it's goes in faster than a 25g.

Are we talking about a 31g on a 1/2" needle injecting into delts? What other muscle would be a fit for that type injection? Biceps/pecs?

 

[wtgrantham]

Are we talking about a 31g on a 1/2" needle injecting into delts? What other muscle would be a fit for that type injection? Biceps/pecs?

Upper outer thighs are good too. Since sub q is becoming more used and accepted you can really use any of the normal muscles if the injection doesnt get completely in the muscle then part of the test may end up sub q. Shouldnt really matter as long as it gets under the skin. I inject mine with a 29 gauge 1/2 inch insulin syringe in the thigh, is it IM? Is it Sub Q? Don't know but it works!

 

[zgx]

Upper outer thighs are good too. Since sub q is becoming more used and accepted you can really use any of the normal muscles if the injection doesnt get completely in the muscle then part of the test may end up sub q. Shouldnt really matter as long as it gets under the skin. I inject mine with a 29 gauge 1/2 inch insulin syringe in the thigh, is it IM? Is it Sub Q? Don't know but it works!

Hey man thanks for that info. Out of curiosity how much do you inject each time? I'm at 100mg per pin as of now which may be too much for a 29g insulin needle. Do you warm up the oil?

 

[wtgrantham]

Hey man thanks for that info. Out of curiosity how much do you inject each time? I'm at 100mg per pin as of now which may be too much for a 29g insulin needle. Do you warm up the oil?

I am also 100 mg so I inject .5ml of 200 mg per ml test cyp
The slin pin is .5 ml so holds the entire dose it seriously injects easier than the 3 ml syring I used to use. Yes I run the entire syringe under hot water faucet for a minute or so to warm it up but not convinced I have to do that. Also have not got a definitive answer on whether heat may damage the medication.
Other than taking awhile to fill the syringe it is unbelievable how easy the injection is

 

[zgx]

I will be given this a try when I begin to pin the delts. Currently on 23g 1" needles on quads and glutes.

 

[justin h]

So much to learn here