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jerhendr2203

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My initial teat levels came in at 358, E2 was 28, after 6 weeks of treatment my teat level
Is at 1446, and E2 is at 12. My doc says my test levels are a little higher than he would like(1200) but I'm 100% healthy so he's not goin to change my 400mg/week routine
 
400mg a week. Wow, that's twice what I'm planning on starting with. Makes me think I'm on the right track. Start low, then add if needed.
 
You are so lucky, lol. Most people get stuck with docs that don't aim for a number anywhere near that.

Hell, my testosterone was even lower than yours and my doc still wouldn't even consider TRT. She told me to check it again in 10 years.

Good on ya.
 
my initial teat levels came in at 358, e2 was 28, after 6 weeks of treatment my teat level
is at 1446, and e2 is at 12. My doc says my test levels are a little higher than he would like(1200) but i'm 100% healthy so he's not goin to change my 400mg/week routine

hey, jerhendr2203.... So i guess all of my precious time of mine that you manipulated and wasted during multiple consults has paid off. From a medical standpoint and an hrt standpoint, i am glad that you are in good health. After all, you should be. It was my protocol that you took to your doc and talked him into using it on you, simply because you could get insurance to cover it. Then you try to play it off and make it as if you've found the doctor of the year, instead of at least giving me a simple "thank you" for helping you educate your doctor. I, obviously don't need the business, but when a grown man calls me numerous times, almost in tears because he has no where else to go, only to take my expertise and try to make someone else look like some glorious beacon of light, its fucking bullshit. People like you are frauds and i'm truly glad that you are not a client of maximus hrt.
 
hey, jerhendr2203.... So i guess all of my precious time of mine that you manipulated and wasted during multiple consults has paid off. From a medical standpoint and an hrt standpoint, i am glad that you are in good health. After all, you should be. It was my protocol that you took to your doc and talked him into using it on you, simply because you could get insurance to cover it. Then you try to play it off and make it as if you've found the doctor of the year, instead of at least giving me a simple "thank you" for helping you educate your doctor. I, obviously don't need the business, but when a grown man calls me numerous times, almost in tears because he has no where else to go, only to take my expertise and try to make someone else look like some glorious beacon of light, its fucking bullshit. People like you are frauds and i'm truly glad that you are not a client of maximus hrt.

Wow!

You know, I have no idea of what transpired visa-via your conversations but it seems to me from reading the OP original post that he did not attempt in any way to make his MD out to be "some glorious beacon of light."

In fact he never put forth any kind of accolade to his physician in any fashion.

I don't have a "dog in this hunt" in any regard, but to label a guy a fraud sure seems like a pretty strong condemnation.
 
OP..fkn uncool.

I m glad your health is improving..and that you educated your doc via Chip.

But I know Chip s personality, work ethic and the philanthropic side of him...and loyalty is one trait that makes or break s people in my book.

I got my eye on you.
 
wow!

You know, i have no idea of what transpired visa-via your conversations but it seems to me from reading the op original post that he did not attempt in any way to make his md out to be "some glorious beacon of light."

in fact he never put forth any kind of accolade to his physician in any fashion.

I don't have a "dog in this hunt" in any regard, but to label a guy a fraud sure seems like a pretty strong condemnation.

he made reference today in another thread cash. And you are absolutely, positively, 100%, correct..... You have zero idea of what took place during many free consults that i gave to the op, nor do you have any idea of the fact that he wanted to obtain his medication illegally, if he couldn't get insurance to cover it and than insulted my intelligence and my integrity by asking me if he could pay me for my consulting services and ask me to set him up on a protocol with his illegal drugs. I don't involve myself with illegal drugs or prescribing anything...... As i am not the doctor.

Anything else we need to inform you of cashout as it seems that you have such a strong opinion of something which you know nothing about???
 
A thank you from Jarhead would have been nice. I mean the guy comes on the board where chip is the official sponsor and boasts about how great his protocol is going and doesn't even acknowledge Chips efforts.. That a little f'ed up
 
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he made reference today in another thread cash. And you are absolutely, positively, 100%, correct..... You have zero idea of what took place during many free consults that i gave to the op, nor do you have any idea of the fact that he wanted to obtain his medication illegally, if he couldn't get insurance to cover it and than insulted my intelligence and my integrity by asking me if he could pay me for my consulting services and ask me to set him up on a protocol with his illegal drugs. I don't involve myself with illegal drugs or prescribing anything...... As i am not the doctor.

Anything else we need to inform you of cashout as it seems that you have such a strong opinion of something which you know nothing about???

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he made reference today in another thread cash. And you are absolutely, positively, 100%, correct..... You have zero idea of what took place during many free consults that i gave to the op, nor do you have any idea of the fact that he wanted to obtain his medication illegally, if he couldn't get insurance to cover it and than insulted my intelligence and my integrity by asking me if he could pay me for my consulting services and ask me to set him up on a protocol with his illegal drugs. I don't involve myself with illegal drugs or prescribing anything...... As i am not the doctor.

Anything else we need to inform you of cashout as it seems that you have such a strong opinion of something which you know nothing about???

I wrote what I wrote so that you would have the opportunity to respond as you did.

In your first post, it seemed that you were exceptional harsh on the guy without cause.

Based on what you subsequently posted, it seems it was deserved.

I just didn't want folks to form an opinion that you were bitter because the guy went outside to work with some other physician.

I was trying to help you out so that you would explain why the guy is a "fraud."

I'm on your side here Chip, you know that from our previous interactions.
 
As a business owner I learned a long time ago that you cannot mix personal emotions with business. If someone behaves unethically, or wastes my resources (especially time), I just try to take a step back and look at it in pure dollars. I then just consider that my cost of doing business.

I can only imagine how difficult that is when you are dealing with such a personal subject and are truly trying to help out a person.

Clearly Chip's feelings are hurt, and he feels betrayed. That's a shitty feeling, and everyone takes it hard. Sorry you have to go through that, Chip. It's the price you pay for befriending people so readily.

It's also the characteristic that so many people in this forum (and I would think everywhere) love about you.
 
I wrote what I wrote so that you would have the opportunity to respond as you did.

In your first post, it seemed that you were exceptional harsh on the guy without cause.

Based on what you subsequently posted, it seems it was deserved.

I just didn't want folks to form an opinion that you were bitter because the guy went outside to work with some other physician.

I was trying to help you out so that you would explain why the guy is a "fraud."

I'm on your side here Chip, you know that from our previous interactions.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT CASH. SORRY IF I CAME AT YOU SIDEWAYS. OR HEAD ON. LOL I'M JUST A BIT FRUSTRATED. NOT ABOUT THE GUY GOING WHERE HIS INSURANCE IS ACCEPTED, HELL YOU DO, AND I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. MY ASS IS JUST CHAPPED BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I HAD PUT IN MY PREVIOUS POST. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THROW IT OUT INTO THE OPEN. NO HARD FEELINGS, BRO. (EXCEPT YOUR ABS ARE STILL BETTER THAN MINE):wallbash:
 
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I DO APPRECIATE THAT CASH. SORRY IF I CAME AT YOU SIDEWAYS. OR HEAD ON. LOL I'M JUST A BIT FRUSTRATED. NOT ABOUT THE GUY GOING WHERE HIS INSURANCE IS ACCEPTED, HELL YOU DO, AND I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. MY ASS IS JUST CHAPPED BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I HAD PUT IN MY PREVIOUS POST. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THROW IT OUT INTO THE OPEN. NO HARD FEELINGS, BRO. (EXCEPT YOUR ABS ARE STILL BETTER THAN MINE):wallbash:

No you didn't come across sideways. I know you better than that.

There are a lot of us who have been here for a while now and we all know and appreciate what you do and how you go about your business.

I also know that there are plenty of "lurkers" here trying to figure this whole HRT thing out for themselves and I wanted them to see you for the straight-up quality person we all know you to be.

That came through loud and clear in your follow up and that is what people will take away from the post.
 
test. results

hey my T came in at 1500, E2 at 28, 3 weeks on 100 mg test.enan.200, 250 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week, and .5 arimdex every 4th day,..when i started my T was 250, and E2 was 30,... now i'm taking less T cause "they say" my T is too high for a 61 year old stud, i was also taking a 50 mg anavar EOD, i feel great, my balls have shrunk a little though, is this because my T was so high?:cool:
 
hey, jerhendr2203.... So i guess all of my precious time of mine that you manipulated and wasted during multiple consults has paid off. From a medical standpoint and an hrt standpoint, i am glad that you are in good health. After all, you should be. It was my protocol that you took to your doc and talked him into using it on you, simply because you could get insurance to cover it. Then you try to play it off and make it as if you've found the doctor of the year, instead of at least giving me a simple "thank you" for helping you educate your doctor. I, obviously don't need the business, but when a grown man calls me numerous times, almost in tears because he has no where else to go, only to take my expertise and try to make someone else look like some glorious beacon of light, its fucking bullshit. People like you are frauds and i'm truly glad that you are not a client of maximus hrt.

Its funny that a few weeks ago you posted this



jerhendr2203...... I am sincerely glad that i was able to help you out. And i'm happy for you that you could find a guy to use my protocol to get you the results you've been looking for. I sincerely thank you for taking the time to write your post. Best of luck to you, big fella!!

If you don’t need my business, you are a bit upset to make the above post, and to say that I was almost in tears, is a crock of shit....maybe you will remember the bold statement below \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

Chip knows his shit. I dont know if it matters, and Im sure it will piss some off, but I consulted Chip, Im 6'3'' 330lbs 31% BF. Chip recommended his Conservative program to me. I was a bit worried about the price, so I looked for a local doc who would use my Insurance, and found a guy who is 100% all about HRT and its benefits. I discussed with him, what Chip had recommended for me, at first he was a bit concerned that the doseage would be a too high, but scripted it to me anyway. Since that day, 49 days ago, the fat has literally fallen off, im down to 303 and 25% BF. Yes my BF is still really high, but there is a HUGE difference, that I can see.

The reason I mention all of this is because without consulting Chip, I would have been on the same bullsh!t program, 100-150mgs/week no Aromatase inhibitor (AI), no PCT.

its funny, because I did say "without you (CHIP) I wouldnt be where I am at now.....

maybe you should search elitefitness, ask around....I bet a few of them will tell you that I forwarded your info, or directed them to this site, maybe you should search Ironmagazine dot com, I know a few memebers will tell you that I directed them to your site.



but to sit behind a computer screen and say that I was almost in tears with no where else to go, is a bold face LIE .....you should recall this

Can you save me money, currently I am paying $990 for 24 week program? I am to new to PM sorry

which tells you that NO you are not the only place I had. YES, Treatment is expensive...YES, like 10% of the American population, I was laid off at the time, YES, I was looking to save money, YES, you would have saved me some money, YES, my insurance covers my treatment, YES, I did take your protocol to my Doc, YES, he did script me your protocol, but to say I have never given you credit is another LIE, and NO I have never ever told anyone anything negative about you or your clinic.

GOOD LUCK in future business, I know you know your sh!t, but to call me a fraud, and say that you do not need my business, and you are glad that I am not a client, is the 100% wrong way to do business, especially since everything you said in the top quote is 50% false!
 
he made reference today in another thread cash. And you are absolutely, positively, 100%, correct..... You have zero idea of what took place during many free consults that i gave to the op, nor do you have any idea of the fact that he wanted to obtain his medication illegally, if he couldn't get insurance to cover it and than insulted my intelligence and my integrity by asking me if he could pay me for my consulting services and ask me to set him up on a protocol with his illegal drugs. I don't involve myself with illegal drugs or prescribing anything...... As i am not the doctor.

Anything else we need to inform you of cashout as it seems that you have such a strong opinion of something which you know nothing about???

I would like to know how I tried to obtain your services illegally, I sent you my bloodwork, I sent you my Medical History, where did I ever ask you to send me Illegal drugs, I would love for you to post those emails!!!!!

I'm 100% positive you have confused me with the WRONG PERSON
 
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