Thinking about a good 1st cycle , opinions please

[rikio3]

Hello Yall, my "friend's" stats are

20yrs old 5'10" , 153lbs low bf%,
2-3 years of hard, solo training

He comes from two small statured lean parents standing around 5'7"-5'9". No matter how much he eats, his weight fluctuates around 146- and 157lbs on a good day.

I am not using a desktop or laptop so I apoligize if i dont reply as soon as yall do, or as fast. I also was not taught how to use this format doc so bare with me. Well here's my cycle idea..


Weeks 1-12 500mg Testosterone Enthalate EW
Weeks 3-12 500iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) E4D
Weeks 1-5 40mg Dbol ED
Weeks 10-12 Tbol 60mg ED

post cycle therapy (pct)--->
Weeks 14-17 50mg Clomid ED
Weeks 14-15 Nolva 40mg ED, then
Weeks 15-17 Nolva 20mg ED

I wanted to keep androgenic/side effects to the minimal, meanwhile maximising lean and hard muscle gains when creating this cycle, thus the " Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) " to prevent and stop testicular enthropy, the Dbol for a kickstart,and Tbol to finish with a bang , and of course proper post cycle therapy (pct) to restore natural test levels.

My dosage measurements and times might be a little off due to myself being exhausted by it taking about an hour to type this giant run-on-sentence thread on my computer "AKA my PS3".. without a keyboard . I need a laptop haha.

And I/he have both read alot about not starting AAS till atleast 27 yrs, and although we respect every professional opinion , im looking on here just for legitimate cycle help/editing and advice on the cycle at hand, not talk about his youthfulness , thank-you.

I Will log in, find this thread , and try to post further conversation as soon as I can. Thanks again.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Moved to the appropriate forum......

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

welcome on steroidology.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/153271-free-diet-advice-3j.html

nothing else than that if i was you.

 

[rikio3]

Ok, so I'm guessing then it sounds like a legitimate booster cycle, no editing required?

 

[DADAWG]

Ok, so I'm guessing then it sounds like a legitimate booster cycle, no editing required?

no dbol on a 1st cycle . test only.

wait at least 2 more years to prevent steroids from slowing or stopping future growth in height .

at your weight spend the money on groceries instead of steroids., stick around and hit the diet and training forums.

 

[glubgawd]

And I/he have both read alot about not starting AAS till atleast 27 yrs, and although we respect every professional opinion , im looking on here just for legitimate cycle help/editing and advice on the cycle at hand, not talk about his youthfulness , thank-you.

No problem man. Your age isn't the only problem so I'll just tell you what else is wrong.

1) You/he/whoever is the tiny guy mentioned in the original post doesn't know how to eat properly. If you don't learn how to do this first, any gains you make on steroids (if you make any....still gotta eat to make gains on steroids ya know) will be quickly lost once you're off cycle. And it's not something you'll magically learn while on cycle just because you wanna jump in right away. It's a process. Hit up the link in Kane's post

2) You're tiny. No hate. Hit up the link in Kane's post. Fix your diet and you'll be amazed at how much more you'll gain naturally. You're not even "average size" regardless of your frame. Means you'll gain the weight pretty quick once you sort the food.

3) Using steroids as a crutch to make the gains you could make naturally is a bad habit. You'll learn that in the long run you'll only keep the gains that you "earned." Not the gains that the steroids made for you.

 

[rikio3]

No problem man, he's got no problem when he eats, well there used to be one, but not since his childhood, the main reason he doesn't get optimal weight results atm I bet is because he pitches in for food and whatnot with his brother, so they both eat from a certain amount. That problem can easily be fixed with a stash plethora of high proteins and carbs.

 

[rikio3]

Oh, he also wanted to have some arimidex on hand for bloat and whatnot during the cycle too.. maybe some b6 vitamins as well.