Thinking about taking Winstrol

[justme8966]

Hey!
I'm a new member, so excuse me asking stupid questions that already have been posted.
I am 6"2 182 pounds as of now. My friend takes Winstrol and says he gets some really good results out of it. It is the only steroid he can get and they come in pills, called Dragon.
Should I take these in order to get bigger muscles, or do they just strip away the fat and make you look ripped (--> skinny)?
What should I take with them in order to protect my liver? And I guess that means no drinking at all for the cycle period.
Would be really nice if someone could tell me about his experience with these pills and if they are worth taking!
Thank you very much,

Nick

 

[zephyrdaz]

Give us your age, stats and training history and we'll take it from there

 

[justme8966]

I'm almost 22, 6"2 and weight 182 pounds. I've been working out for almost 2 years 6 days a week with Cardio thrown in twice a week.
Thanks for your help!

 

[mark444]

I'm almost 22, 6"2 and weight 182 pounds. I've been working out for almost 2 years 6 days a week with Cardio thrown in twice a week.
Thanks for your help!

workout for a few more years naturally. during that time continue reading and researching. once you have 5 years under your belt do a test only cycle. Winstrol (winny) only cycles give very few results

 

[Alozade]

what's your diet look like

 

[zephyrdaz]

You very light for you height to be doing gear. What are your goals? bulk or cut, you need to choose and one or the other. It looks like you overtraining and you need to change that a lot to have any chance of gaining weight.

I personally don't think your ready for steroids, you need to look at your diet and training to achieve your goals. Which you could reach easily naturally at your age.

You should not do Winstrol (winny) for a first cycle

 

[justme8966]

What will happen if I do one cycle of 50mg British Dragons? Will I see any progress at all?
What would you suggest trainingwise to not overtrain and about my diet?

 

[Nasdaq]

workout for a few more years naturally. during that time continue reading and researching. once you have 5 years under your belt do a test only cycle. Winstrol (winny) only cycles give very few results

cosigned

 

[zephyrdaz]

What will happen if I do one cycle of 50mg British Dragons? Will I see any progress at all?
What would you suggest trainingwise to not overtrain and about my diet?

As I said before, you do not need to do steroids and you shouldn't do them, certainly not orals for a first cycle. That's my opinion and advice. As I'm a bit bored with saying now, steroids are not sweets or magic potions and muscle is not made of steroids.

I have no idea what you diet and training is like, but training six days a week with that much cardio is not going make you bulk. What are your goals? I assume you want to bulk as you've not got much to cut?

Sort out your diet and training and you'll put plenty of weight on naturally. So post your diet and training

 

[gator_mclusky]

If you are dead set on doing them then you need advice. At 22 you are old enough to do them although it seems you could make some good natural gains. From what you said stat wise it seems you should be bigger so something doesnt add up.

You are either not eating enough, not changing up your routines enough or missing workouts. No offense but nobody trains 6 days a wk for two yrs. If you do you are overtraining.

Winstrol can be useful for good quality solid gains but I recommend the Injectable. Its less stress on the liver.

Id recommend a Test only cycle at only 200m mgs-250 mgs e/w(every week) for 10 wks with proper Post Cycle Therapy(PCT)

Winstrol only cycles are good as well. More keepable gains. If you go this route Id go 8 wks at only 50 mgs eod(every other day)

Keep us posted.

gator

 

[dialtone]

yea man, i agree with zephyr, if your trying to bulk, all you should be doing is lifting heavy and eating alot so you can heal quickly to lift heavy again. stay off the treamill and stay away from Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for a while. and dont refer to winstrol as british dragons, BD is a pharm that produces many substances. and Winstrol (winny) is not a good first drug to use, i think you will be dissapointed if you do take it because you are probably taking for the wrong reasons. you'll lose quite a bit of hair, hurt your liver and get a little stronger...maybe. listen to these guys, good luck.

 

[justme8966]

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I think one cycle of Winstrol does not really have huge side effects. At least all my buddies that took them didn't feel any side effects.
I work at a gym, so I got nothing to do than work out all the time. I don't work out every day straight, if I feel tired I will give it an off day but usually there's weeks where I work out 6 days a week, different muscle groups every day.

I definitely hear you guys and respect your opinion, but I think I just have reached a plateau where it is hard for me to continue getting stronger.
I try to eat at least 4-6 meals a day and keep my calorie intake high, but since I am a runner and endurance athlete, it is a little tought to put on a lot of beef. I will cut back on the cardio a bit and try to take in more calories, but friends that took winstrol already all think I would see great benefits from it.
So I basically don't know what to do. I thought I would give it a try and do one cycle. All I can get right now is winstrol pills...if I could get something better, I probably would, but my sources are limited.

Still not sure what I should do, because I really respect your opinions, since most of the people on this board know what they are talking about..

 

[dialtone]

just take it dude, if you feel that strongly about it, you have to find out on your own. im sure every one on here has messed around with stuff and learned through trial and error. we just dont want you to rush into anything, waste your money, or hurt your body. i consider winstrol a fairly mild compound, just based on my experience. and the only side i ever got was alot of hair loss, which is why i stay away from it now. but it certainly won't kill you. you should spend more time researching if you see yourself doing different compounds in the future. and your not going to get the results you want if you can't eat, lift and rest like you should while on the drugs...theres alot more to using drugs than just swallowing pills and injecting, its a lifestyle that gets people where they want to be.

 

[justme8966]

what do you guys suggest me taking with it to protect myself against live failure and hair loss?
When I don't work out on a friday and know I will be at the bars drinking, should I be very concerned or just not take winstrol that day?

 

[Ripped Canadian]

Liver 52
Milk Thistle
Alpha Lipioc Acid
NAC

Do a search on the above topics.

Hair loss....proscar....but I don't think you should worry about that...being so young...

what do you guys suggest me taking with it to protect myself against live failure and hair loss?
When I don't work out on a friday and know I will be at the bars drinking, should I be very concerned or just not take winstrol that day?

 

[leanbody]

Hey dude; Not to rain on your parade, but these guys are right. I tried the Winstrol (winny) 1st cycle like u are suggesting because i was afraid of pins. I gotta say it wasn't workth it - would have been better off putting th effort into diet and training. Now i am doing a test cycle - see how it goes. Good luck bud.

 

[mark444]

Liver 52

Do a search on the above topics.

Hair loss....proscar....but I don't think you should worry about that...being so young...

poor advice. proscar simply acts by inhibiting type II 5-alpha reductase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Since winstrol is a derivative DHT this will do absolutely nothing for hairloss prevention.

 

[mark444]

just take it dude, if you feel that strongly about it, you have to find out on your own. im sure every one on here has messed around with stuff and learned through trial and error.

ummmm no. recommending trial and error as a reasonable approach for supplementing hormones? horrible advice.

how about read, read, read. learn as much about the hormones and ancillary drugs you will be taking. this will help you know what to expect and enable you to make a more accurate diagnosis in the event of a problem.

do not just wing it.

 

[blackpersondog]

ummmm no. recommending trial and error as a reasonable approach for supplementing hormones? horrible advice.

how about read, read, read. learn as much about the hormones and ancillary drugs you will be taking. this will help you know what to expect and enable you to make a more accurate diagnosis in the event of a problem.

do not just wing it.

i second that...u could really fuck yourself up...not to mention at 22 training for 2 years....ur not at a real plateau...run less eat more...if ur feelin frisky throw some creatine in...ur friends may not have shitty sides but everyone reacts differently to the exact same compounds

 

[dialtone]

in no way did i recommend trial and error, and i clearly i dont think this guy should be even considering taking anything. what i meant by my comment is that you can read all day and night and ask all the questions you want and you still have no idea what its like when the drugs start kicking in, thats when you start learning how you mix with all the stuff you've. i spend months planning my cycles, even if i have used the drug before. i never wing it, sorry if you don't approve my advice.