I've been training hard for a good 2 yrs now and have decided alittle help won't hurt... but im not sure. Im thinking about doing or what someone recommended to me was to do test and deca togethier for a 10 wk period. injecting 1cc of test twice a wk and 1cc of deca a wk. this sounds right? 1cc equals to what in mg? i dunno... what are if any side effects should i expect and should i worry about gyno. if so how do i avoid it and if i do get it does gyno go away after the cycle? a cycle of test and deca for 10 wks should cost how much? about $300.00??? that sounds good? your advice would be great thanks.. my stats are 28yrs old 5'11 175lb right now at 12% bodyfat. what should i expect to gain with this cycle and is it good?
Thinking of 1st cycle of....
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BUFFDAWG10
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Test only for a first cycle...........400-500mgs./week 8-10 weeks!
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
Welcome to Steroidology !!
Sounds like you've got alot of reading to do.........LOL
You should start in the "New Member" section, then the "Steroid Profiles" area, and then the "Articles" forum.
As far as a cycle goes, I am in agreement with what BUFFDAWG already said, and for a detailed explanation of why, have a look at this thread..............http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23190
Sounds like you've got alot of reading to do.........LOL
You should start in the "New Member" section, then the "Steroid Profiles" area, and then the "Articles" forum.
As far as a cycle goes, I am in agreement with what BUFFDAWG already said, and for a detailed explanation of why, have a look at this thread..............http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23190
LAWNSAVER
New member
fiasco said:
Everyone is different!!
I would say that 20lbs is a good estimate. Steroids are not magic. They might seem that way, but the trick is to focus on your diet, training, and recovery. If you do not eat post cycle, lower your training intesity, and have a good post cycle therapy(post cycle therapy (pct)), you wont be succesful and you will be another statistic that sayd steroids are bad!
What supplements have you used?? How is your diet now?? Do you know your protien intake??
500mg of test for 10 weeks is pretty mild. You will only need to have nolvadex on hand in case of signs of gyno. You will know gyno if your nips get itchy or sore. If they do hit 40mg of Nolvadex for the first 5 days and the sensations should go away, if they dont, you probably should stop the cycle. That probably wont happen.
Read Swale's post cycle therapy (pct) thread at the top of the board. Since this is your first cycle, I wouldn't use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during this cycle, as we want you to see how 1 drug effects you.
You really have atleast another 2-4 weeks of reading to do. Read about different steroids, read about post cycle therapy (pct) drugs and how to take them, read about diet, training, read about side effect and how to understand them and combat them.
Dont rush in...I know you say you have been reading, but do it right, or just dont do it!
Good luck and read...all the info is here!!
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
fiasco said:
Costs vary dramatically, depending on what type of gear you get (human, vet, ug lab) whethers it's domestic, international, or gym source.
Don't worry about Deca now, just stick to a Test only cycle.
cc and mg are not even the same unit of measurement. cc is a measure of volume and mg is a measure of weight. gear comes in different mg/ml (cc) ratios. ie 250 mg/ml.
I'll be paying like around $300.00 for a 10 wk supply of test (human) and deca. I will only stick with the test for the 1st go around. Im alittle worried of this gyno ( bitch tits) stuff. Is there a 110% way I could avoid it while on test? AND would I take Nolvadex only at sighs of gyno or while I on the test at the same time?
gator_mclusky
Man on a Mission
Nolvadex will hinder ur gains.
that dosage is moderate IMO so gyno shuldnt be an issue.
I gained almost 20lbs my first cycle w/250 mgs Sostenon fer 10 wks.....EAT,EAT and EAT more.
Gator
that dosage is moderate IMO so gyno shuldnt be an issue.
I gained almost 20lbs my first cycle w/250 mgs Sostenon fer 10 wks.....EAT,EAT and EAT more.
Gator
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
gator_mclusky said:
I strongly disagree that Nolva will hinder gains..........
......and Test at 500mg/week can cause gyno, everyone varies in their susceptability to it.
PlocMonster
New member
Lawnsaver, made a great post man
gator_mclusky
Man on a Mission
StoneColdNTO said:
Ive taken High androgens that cause some water retention and used Nolv w/ some and w/out and the times w/i had fewer gains...all things being equal.
Thats my personal experience.
Gator
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
gator_mclusky said:
Are you saying that Nolva helped with water retention and that is why you think you made less gains ??
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