Threads like this run off new members...Salmon Run of Noobs

[pickle bunny]

Weather it be wanted or unwanted a large function of this Board/Forum is to educate the uneducated or novice.

It would seem that there is a reoccuring theme of Noob Questions. Most of the answers revolve around

1 You are too young

2 DBOL is not the answer

3 Learn about PCT

Etc.

I know that there are stickies that reflect many of the answers however the noobs don't read them.

I tend to see more impatience on the board
when a number of noobs shows up the same week and they get more flamed than informed.
Some noobs are just plain stupid and others are truly looking for good information to keep them safe while they try to navigate this endeavor.

What if:

You create a cut and paste so you have a
consistent clear cut answer for these questions, especially regarding being too young and why it could be damaging to engage aas. Make a sticky titled
"You are to young" and explain in detail why. Or "This is what you need to have before you start." Just an example. I am sure that you can lay it out much better that I ever could.
Use these stickies to cut and paste into Noobs questions to keep the informationconsistent and current.
Work together and agree on what is the best information to instruct or lead a noob properly.

That would save alot of time and give good comprehensive information to a youngster seeking info. Hopefully this could prevent many young athletes from making mistakes that could have long term ramifications.

And to add one thing more hopefully it would turn several people away from asa
and they would choose not to follow this path.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Good post! I have noticed a ton of complete and utter stupidity from noobs. I have to admit I am one of the guys giving more flame than answers and I agree that it would be better to teach them the right way cause we all know they are going to do it regardless. It just pisses me the fuck off when these kids dont care about what they are putting in themselves and only care about an easy answer...someone to just tell them what to do with out them knowing why...cook book kids. Also, IMO, I dont want to be responsible for some kid fucking his endocrine system up for life and in 4 or 5 or 10 years remember that "cobra strike" gave me the info when I first started and now Im all fucked up. It goes against my ethics and morals to help a kid do aas. I wont even buy alcohol for minors even though I know they can get it elsewhere...if something happened to them cause of me being "the cool guy" I could never live that down.

 

[ezred]

yeah a swipe file wouldn't be the worst thing.

i notice rj does that with his "eat asshole eat" posts to under-eaters.... i mean hardgainers.

or just write up anything that isn't covered in stickies.... each topic clearly and concisely into it's own post. post those, and then link to them if you don't want to waste the time swiping all the time.

 

[RJ]

do you know how many times a thread like this has been posted Pickle?

I have been here over 7 years and it doesn't matter what you "sticky", cut and paste, or whatever, you will always get the same questions over and over. Because thruthfully, there are a ton of stickies out there now that you could cut and paste as you suggested. Stone has one, 3J has one, and guess what, they all say the same thing, and they all get ignored.

The problem isn't that we flame the noobs. Its that they don't listen. And i have found that 'tough love' is the only thing that works the majority of the time. Do i run off some new guys? Of course, but those are the guys that don't listen.

There have been plenty of hard headed newbs that come here, get the 'tough love' approach, and after 20-30 posts, they actually start to listen. That's why i stay here.

The other retards are gonna do what they want regardless of wht you say, that's why i don't bother anymore. I have actually found myself skipping over alot of new posts because its a waste of time.

 

[ezred]

so how much of that did you cut and paste rj?

do you know how many times a thread like this has been posted Pickle?

I have been here over 7 years and it doesn't matter what you "sticky", cut and paste, or whatever, you will always get the same questions over and over. Because thruthfully, there are a ton of stickies out there now that you could cut and paste as you suggested. Stone has one, 3J has one, and guess what, they all say the same thing, and they all get ignored.

The problem isn't that we flame the noobs. Its that they don't listen. And i have found that 'tough love' is the only thing that works the majority of the time. Do i run off some new guys? Of course, but those are the guys that don't listen.

There have been plenty of hard headed newbs that come here, get the 'tough love' approach, and after 20-30 posts, they actually start to listen. That's why i stay here.

The other retards are gonna do what they want regardless of wht you say, that's why i don't bother anymore. I have actually found myself skipping over alot of new posts because its a waste of time.

 

[pickle bunny]

do you know how many times a thread like this has been posted Pickle?

I have been here over 7 years and it doesn't matter what you "sticky", cut and paste, or whatever, you will always get the same questions over and over. Because thruthfully, there are a ton of stickies out there now that you could cut and paste as you suggested. Stone has one, 3J has one, and guess what, they all say the same thing, and they all get ignored.

The problem isn't that we flame the noobs. Its that they don't listen. And i have found that 'tough love' is the only thing that works the majority of the time. Do i run off some new guys? Of course, but those are the guys that don't listen.

There have been plenty of hard headed newbs that come here, get the 'tough love' approach, and after 20-30 posts, they actually start to listen. That's why i stay here.

The other retards are gonna do what they want regardless of wht you say, that's why i don't bother anymore. I have actually found myself skipping over alot of new posts because its a waste of time.

I hear what you are sayin. I have only been here 2 plus months and I am tired of the same questions already. And yes you are right about tough love and dinkleberries that don't listen.

I was just lookin for a way to streamline the mail that needs to be delivered.



Lets make this thing work.

Second thought RJ, You know your shit. Lets do this.
Make a thred in detail about why you dont start aas before age 23.
Keep it readable and non kick ass. Include beginning cycles and why youdont use stand alone cycles like Dbol or Deca.
Make it sticky Number One
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DetOaks sticky is perfect as is. Sitcky Number Three

3Js need reworked to follow a detailed diet regimen Your current sticky is broad. Since you are a diet expert your sticky should be diet only.--cool? It would stand alone as Sticky Number Two.

DocJs thred is excellent. Sticky Number Four

We will place them in order up above. When a noob asks same olds we can redirect them upabove and save a ton of time and shit.


Annnnnnndddd you can make your tough love sticky Number Five.

Boyyyyya! Fuckin A Titty Sprinkles. No more dumbass advice like bon bon gives and we can get back to what we enjoy doing best.....porn

 

[pickle bunny]

Let me ask the Mods permission.

If we get 5 quality threds done will you put them up in order as stickys 1-5

Or

You could name it Sticky 1-5 and put all in one sticky to save header space.

 

[RJ]

again, that all sounds great, but more guys disregard the stickies then read them, so i doubt you'll get much help on that.

Occasionally I'll bump old threads that I deem relevant but that's about it.

 

[pickle bunny]

again, that all sounds great, but more guys disregard the stickies then read them, so i doubt you'll get much help on that.

Occasionally I'll bump old threads that I deem relevant but that's about it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ok I'll just take a nap.

 

[tednatas]

do you know
There have been plenty of hard headed newbs that come here, get the 'tough love' approach, and after 20-30 posts, they actually start to listen. That's why i stay here. QUOTE]

I am actually one of these people. It worked on me. It is amazing the difference between a 21-24 year old to 30 plus. When I was that young i thought I would live forever as well. It took me a while to appreciate the genuine attempts to correct shitty logic. A teenage can easily mistake this site for a joke. Its not though... true story

 

[DADAWG]

my personnal favorite is when newbie idiot number 1 with 20 post advise newbie idiot number 2 with some absolutely shitty advice and newbie idiot number 2 falls for it hook line and sinker because it was what he wanted to hear even if he knew it was wrong.

 

[CaptHowdy]

i am no expert what so ever when it comes to this shit and i learn new stuff here and searching online every day. ill search online then come here to get expierenced opinions.

but i have seen a ton of dum shit too. My favorie is oral only cycles.. or any cycle w/o test...

or that dam kid that was arguing that tuna on fucking crackers was a good meal complete with complex carbs and quality protien lmao...

and i have read some stickys not all. i even have advice/ knowledge from other people saved even from posts that i didnt make so i can go back to it later even shit from rj from a few months back.

 

[blazeftp]

What about for ever person that does it we just say.

Read Here first.
New Members -- CLICK HERE - Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology

Then once you have a basic understanding read here.
Anabolic Steroids and Bodybuilding Articles - Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology

Once you know what you are talking about post thread with
Stats,Diet,Training schedule.








I mean FFS i am on here EOD Reading
New training method and routine
And 3J's diet log and about ever article related to my cycle.

Seen some really good ones on other boards i am going to post up here soon.
Its the Jackpot of all info on Steroid Hormones

 

[Repo]

A very good topic and some very good ideas here

I like the idea of having them go to links - read - and then ask their question.

I'm sure some will need to be sent back to re-read

The "thing" that needs to be understood is that we are dealing with behavior patterns...

The behavior starts - right here - by understanding the behavior of the noob.

The best way to change behavior patterns is to educate the "why" something is - the way it is.

Still - some will never take the time to read and listed - but - for the ones that do ... They need to understand "why."

When you understand the "why" - the rational part of the brain kicks in - and now you change behavior patterns.

This is what makes THE DET OAK's post so solid - because of how he explains - the "why."

You see - this is time tested and proven - over and over ... to really help someone - it's worth taking the time to explain "why."

What ever is decided - the method should explain why they need to follow specific advice.

IMO

 

[pickle bunny]

The idea is to organize the stickies in a way that based on the question they can just be directed to that exact sticky. You no longer have to give typed responses to the same stuff daily.


The stickies flow in order from:
to young ,
diet,
Det oaks
Doc js
Tough love

So the question noobs present can be answered with a sticky instead of flame or worse yet poor advice.

These are just thoughts for discussion to streamline some of the information.

Open for discussion or rejection.

 

[RJ]

the the top of the anabolic forum there are listing just like you stated. Then sub forums within those listings.

Again, i know what you are saying, but its already there. Waiting patiently for all the new guys, not just young guys, but new guys to the lifestyle as well, to look at all the yummy information.

All the sub forums with stickies have them. Basically to do what you are saying just requires putting those links into your post instead of an actual answer.

But again, the guys that piss everyone off are the ones who bypass all that shit because

1. they just want to hear someone say what they are thinking is correct.
2. They are like most young guys and are too impatient to look around and use the search button
3. They have actual brain damage.

 

[RJ]

or that dam kid that was arguing that tuna on fucking crackers was a good meal complete with complex carbs and quality protien lmao...

Dario23 was by far my fav to work with in the last 2 years. for those of you that don't know him, here you go.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/157272-dbol-first-cycle.html

and this is the direct link to the tuna on crackers post.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/2198082-post23.html

he also swore up and down shrimp was a great protein source for mass!!

 

[Swan]

My opinion means shit, but I agree with the thread thing, you cant give wrong advice and u can stop answering dumb questions if everyone bands together and says we read up before doing this now you read and just paste the link to them, they will be forced to read until they answer there own questions and then it gives them time to educate to make more educated questions, questions worth answering, also allowes them to put them selves in the appropriate category " under eater, over eater, too young, not enough info, bf to high, training all wrong, wrong reasons to start", I like all you folks on this board And I have never been led the wrong way, but thanks to those stickies and threads and months of, links being pasted to me instead of just giving me what I wanted, my body is changed for the good, along with diet training and knowledge !

 

[RJ]

ok, you guys post links. see how far that gets you.

nothing has changed by doing what you say. You know how many times 3J has posted a link to his diet sticky and the jackass still says he knows his diet of Ritz crackers and vanilla wafers is perfect for cutting? Too many.

The info is out there. The best way to handle this would be to give them access to only this information at first. Then ask them a series of questions that have to be answered correctly before you gain access to other parts of the board.

but then you have a whole host of other problems. Guys will say fuck this board and move on and then membership dwindles. Which means less sponsorship activity, etc.

its not as easy as it seems. Although your logic is sound, it will remain flawed because of the guy your trying to reach.

Honestly, like i told Pickle, i have been not even answering any stupid posts lately because i feel that until they make an effort, they shouldn't be answered. Not the right approach, but its either that or a 30 post volley in the hopes that they eventually listen.

 

[Repo]

RJ would be good to have in there too - or would that be the tough love one?

The idea is to organize the stickies in a way that based on the question they can just be directed to that exact sticky. You no longer have to give typed responses to the same stuff daily.


The stickies flow in order from:
to young ,
diet,
Det oaks
Doc js
Tough love

So the question noobs present can be answered with a sticky instead of flame or worse yet poor advice.

These are just thoughts for discussion to streamline some of the information.

Open for discussion or rejection.