Time on = time off (out the window) for all the mistakes like me

[Sizewize]

RiGHT.... Where to start...

Now I know how the rule goes time on = time off but what about for the people who do not follow this can anyone give some advise ??? Yes I know its frowned upon but just to clear this up for some people like me...

Lets say I just finished a Test only cycle of 16 weeks of 1000mg week..

Now I decide to take 4 weeks PCT then 3-4 weeks off THEN decide to jump onto another cycle 16-20 weeks with bigger dosages...

So as an <<example 1>> not sure if this sounds like B&C

Week 1-4 Test 1000mg
Week 5-8 Test 250mg
Week 9-12 Test 1000mg
Week 13-16 Test 250mg
Week 17-20 Test 1000mg
Orals would be Dbol & Anadrol & Pro-hormone,, so basically 4 weeks each between...

<< Or example 2 >>

Week 1-8 Test prop 800mg
Week 1-6 Oral tabs
Week 9-12 PCT

Week 13-14 (2 weeks off)

Week 1-8 Test prop 800mg
Week 1-6 Oral tabs
Week 9-12 PCT


Would example 2 be an easier recovery in the final outcome ?

 

[Sizewize]

Also need to add is I had a hernia opp 12 weeks ago, and all is good thats why I wana start cycle again... I don't mind blast an cruise for 6 months, just I never done that before and am worried that there will be no recovery as I herd many bad stories on this forum.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Both of your "examples" are idiotic.

If your gonna blast and cruise do it right. Even b&c guys give time blasting = time cruising at a minimum. All your doing with example 1 is giving huge fluctuations in test levels.. You wont even reach cruise levels until right before you start injecting grams again. This cycle would wreak havoc on your bloods and produce a tonne of sides.

Example 2 is even stupider. You won't have recovered before you shut yourself down again. You will barely have started producing test naturally again then your gonna hammer your hpta with another cycle. This is gonna be really rough on your hpta.. Wouldn't surprise me at all if this left you shutdown permanently.

You would have a better chance of recovering after blasting and cruising properly and running a proper full pct. Your proposed pcts here are terrible. Jesus christ this post is retarted. You have no business using gear at all. Please do some actual research instead of asking extremely basic questions.

 

[jozifp103]

i mean, some get impatient and start their cycle a "little" early. this is not ideal as it will make recovery even harder the next time around. but what you're talking about is not smart at all. as prince said, option one, you would not even be on a low dose long enough for levels to drop. by the time your test levels start to drop you will already be pinning 1000mg again so your levels would go down for a very short period. it is doing nothing more than causing unnecessary fluctuations.

option 2 is also stupid because again, as prince said, you would be starting your cycle before you are even close to recovering. just because pct is over does not mean you have recovered fully. it still takes months afterword to really be back to normal.

either run cycles and follow time off=time on, or blast and cruise....but blasting and cruising is a lifetime decision so trt would most likely be in your near future if you go that route.

 

[Sizewize]

Why come on to a forum an always get NEGATIVE feedback without help!!!
You say do research but WTF do u think I am doing!!!

IM GETTING POINTS OF VIEWS FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION LIKE ME TRYING TO LEARN!!! EVERYONE HAS TO START SOMEWHERE!!!

There are so many stupid people worse than me also trying to find out same information so it's hard to get it online because it's all rubbish...

HENCE THE FACT WHY I ASK !!!!!

 

[palmers]

thy cleared it up with advise and reasons why to avoid it... yes they threw a lot of testosterone into their adivse but they are on testosterone

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Why come on to a forum an always get NEGATIVE feedback without help!!!
You say do research but WTF do u think I am doing!!!

IM GETTING POINTS OF VIEWS FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION LIKE ME TRYING TO LEARN!!! EVERYONE HAS TO START SOMEWHERE!!!

There are so many stupid people worse than me also trying to find out same information so it's hard to get it online because it's all rubbish...

HENCE THE FACT WHY I ASK !!!!!

It's not hard to find, everybody else can figure out how to research. And like I said.. These are super basic mistakes. Literally 10mins research could have told you that.

I told you you were wrong and I told you why. I anwsered all of your questions. Now you have learnt. You gotta grow some thicker skin if you want to hang out on internet forums.

 

[Sizewize]

It's not hard to find, everybody else can figure out how to research. And like I said.. These are super basic mistakes. Literally 10mins research could have told you that.

I told you you were wrong and I told you why. I anwsered all of your questions. Now you have learnt. You gotta grow some thicker skin if you want to hang out on internet forums.

Ive been on 2 forums, both for almost 4 years,, can't u see that in my avatar profile..
I have read loads but take into account loads of people talk crap also, so that's why I asking as a new upto date question.. I been on steroidology 4 years...

Better I ask than I mess it up as I done before when I was younger...

 

[slindependant]

It's not hard to find, everybody else can figure out how to research. And like I said.. These are super basic mistakes. Literally 10mins research could have told you that.

I told you you were wrong and I told you why. I anwsered all of your questions. Now you have learnt. You gotta grow some thicker skin if you want to hang out on internet forums.

I agree with Prince OP, you came, you asked and you were answered, Your body needs time to fully regain its own control over your hormones between cycles, just ask around in here and you will find plenty of guys that learned the hard way and now rely on TRT due to foolishness in some cases (not all) i was 28 before my first cycle and did a hell of a lot of research, and yes i learned quite a bit but coming to this forum has opened my eyes, listen to what your being told we are here to help you and if that means giving you crap for some bad ideas and terrible cycle thoughts then so be it its all a learning curve, browse some of the sticky's (if you haven't already) there is a hell of a lot of info here for you to read before you ask q's, good luck with whatever you do though but please don't take the crap we may give you personally after all its the cycles we are picking apart and not you.

 

[Sizewize]

I agree with Prince OP, you came, you asked and you were answered, Your body needs time to fully regain its own control over your hormones between cycles, just ask around in here and you will find plenty of guys that learned the hard way and now rely on TRT due to foolishness in some cases (not all) i was 28 before my first cycle and did a hell of a lot of research, and yes i learned quite a bit but coming to this forum has opened my eyes, listen to what your being told we are here to help you and if that means giving you crap for some bad ideas and terrible cycle thoughts then so be it its all a learning curve, browse some of the sticky's (if you haven't already) there is a hell of a lot of info here for you to read before you ask q's, good luck with whatever you do though but please don't take the crap we may give you personally after all its the cycles we are picking apart and not you.

Anyways ok thanks & yes I read probably all the stickys,, quite clearly I'm just not clever enough to absorb all the info correctly, I'm just plain thick an stupid lol
I'm just not a clued up an clever enough, my guess is I should of finished school...

 

[Sizewize]

I agree with Prince OP, you came, you asked and you were answered, Your body needs time to fully regain its own control over your hormones between cycles, just ask around in here and you will find plenty of guys that learned the hard way and now rely on TRT due to foolishness in some cases (not all) i was 28 before my first cycle and did a hell of a lot of research, and yes i learned quite a bit but coming to this forum has opened my eyes, listen to what your being told we are here to help you and if that means giving you crap for some bad ideas and terrible cycle thoughts then so be it its all a learning curve, browse some of the sticky's (if you haven't already) there is a hell of a lot of info here for you to read before you ask q's, good luck with whatever you do though but please don't take the crap we may give you personally after all its the cycles we are picking apart and not you.

Anyways ok thanks & yes I read probably all the stickys,, quite clearly I'm just not clever enough to absorb all the info correctly, I'm just plain thick an stupid lol
I'm just not a clued up an clever enough, my guess is I should of finished school...

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Well if your not willing to let your body totally recover you will be looking at TRT for life. I had a friend who was very knowledgable who chose to stay on in hopes for playing another season of pro football. After about 3 weeks into his extended cycle he severed his ACL finishing his season and his curer.

So he started PCT. Well after a month of server depression from the clomid and lack of Testosterone followed by the changes in his professional life he realized his body wasn't recovering. Everything was tried to get him going again to no eval. HCG offered some benefit. He at least felt a bit normal. This was short lived. It was decided that TRT was the only way to feel good for a lasting time. He never was totally happy with the way he was feeling and took to self medicating after a year of battling with pain meds he had an accident on his bike and died on the operating table in the hospital.

You decide for your self what you think is best for you. I'm a fan of proper time off.

 

[JimiThing]

Why come on to a forum an always get NEGATIVE feedback without help!!!
You say do research but WTF do u think I am doing!!!

IM GETTING POINTS OF VIEWS FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION LIKE ME TRYING TO LEARN!!! EVERYONE HAS TO START SOMEWHERE!!!

There are so many stupid people worse than me also trying to find out same information so it's hard to get it online because it's all rubbish...

HENCE THE FACT WHY I ASK !!!!!

You are not trying to learn. You are looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear. If you were truly trying to learn your questions would not be conditional...and they are. People trying to learn dont as conditional questions. Apparently you already learned it isnt wise to do cycles too close together- yet you are choosing too anyway. People do not really want to offer advice to someone that will turn around and disregard it anyway, unless they hear what they want too, Also people like to give advice on things they themselves have experience with. Thankfully most do not have experience with doing cycles too close together so how can you expect advice on it? I hate when this card is played. Its BS. People dont wanna be responsible for advising you on what cycle to run because the fact is most feel you shouldnt be running one at all. Why would they want to play any part or have any responsibility in you possibly damage your hpta for life? I sure as hell dont.

 

[JJB-SA]

Anyways ok thanks & yes I read probably all the stickys,, quite clearly I'm just not clever enough to absorb all the info correctly, I'm just plain thick an stupid lol
I'm just not a clued up an clever enough, my guess is I should of finished school...

Hey Sizewize where are you based in South Africa? i really want to find some way to read the rules of the forum and not openly post about sources.

 

[Sizewize]

Hey Sizewize where are you based in South Africa?

is this a joke ?
Who is this ?

 

[JJB-SA]

Its not a joke, just new to this part of the world.
my email is*****************

 

[Sizewize]

Its not a joke, just new to this part of the world.
my email is *************

No chance, dodgy, I dont know u and take ur email off delete it.
What makes you say I'm from South Africa ???

 

[ADenver]

is this a joke ?
Who is this ?

This is hilarious!