Tren dose vs test dose, which do you follow?

MJF

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I never venture away from this place, but a friend sent me a link to another forum. At the top of the page, was a discussion about keeping test dose low while on tren, which I had read here as well. It basically said it will minimize the side effects most people blame on tren.

A little over 2 weeks in, I'm not feeling any real side effects of the tren, but so far I like it very much and would like to run it the full 10 weeks. Someone told me you run tren until the tren tells you it's time to stop.

I'm on 800mg test
600mg mast
420mg tren
500iu hcg
Daily low dose cialis
I'll throw in anavar towards the end

I plan to run tren 10 weeks, test and mast 16, with the anavar 4 weeks. If I'm not feeling bad, is there any advantage/disadvantage to lowering the test until the tren is done? Down to say 400mg /week.
 
The advantage is that it can make managing E2 easier which in turn makes prolactin less of a problem. That is why many guys run tren with Test at their TRT dose.

The best advice I can give is to run Test at a dose you have run previously and you are confident you can manage E2 on that dose.
 
I've ran my e2 crashed more than I've ran it normal or high. I'm about to go for blood work though cause my body(feeling) is a horrible indicator of my e2 level I've found out.
 
Which test is best and cheapest for e2 and everything else, except TT. I don't care about the exavt TT number.
 
Arent you taking too much gear? Oh man before i started testosterone, i was so scared from heart enlargement. But now, i see u guys with that much gear, seems like testosterone is like protein supplement.
 
MJF said:
Which test is best and cheapest for e2 and everything else, except TT. I don't care about the exavt TT number.
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When taking tren you will get a false E2 reading using the ECLIA method. You will have to pay the extra $ for the LC\MS method (aka Sensitive).

If you are running a test dose that you dont know how to manage E2 on you should drop the Tren asap. You need to continue the the learning process building up to tren.
 
Megatron28 said:
When taking tren you will get a false E2 reading using the ECLIA method. You will have to pay the extra $ for the LC\MS method (aka Sensitive).

If you are running a test dose that you dont know how to manage E2 on you should drop the Tren asap. You need to continue the the learning process building up to tren.
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I appreciate the concern. It's why I'm being diligent with blood work this time. My e2 has only gone high omce on cycle. It was at the end of a cycle where I had bumped the test to 1g and stupidly threw in some d-bol at the end. Since it was near the end, I wasn't paying as much attention to remembering my adex dose.

My commemt was in reference to recently whete I had doubled my trt dose and every symptom was telling me my e2 was high only to discover it was crashed. I'm just not smart enough to keep my mistakes to myself, I post them here. lol
 
I ran tren e at 600 mgs/wk and my test at 200mg/ wk. I hardly had any sides from the tren. Almost thought it was bunk at first lol. Anyway, I can't give an honest opinion on it cause it was the first time I tried it that way. Going to try the low test high tren a again this spring/summer.
 
I've done both before. Honestly, I'll stick to high tren low test. Sides were less and didn't use much test. Saved on gear with great results. Doing the same now with deca...
 
tbonexl said:
I've done both before. Honestly, I'll stick to high tren low test. Sides were less and didn't use much test. Saved on gear with great results. Doing the same now with deca...
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This ^^^^. When doing TREN you basically have the activity of test but your body needs the original make up of it's own like test. ergo the need for at lest LOW test. NO need to run high test a double dip so to speak. AS said a waist of money because the reason why you are doing Tren is to get the effects that Tren offers being a 19 nor. You could up the Tren to 500mgs

I feel you can run the Tren for 10 weeks. I did but then really for me, my sides were really rough and I knew for sure I needed to stop

Since you have Test on board at any does You must run an AI from day one. You will be able to control your E and your blood work as well as your body will give you an idea as to where your at. You are doing BW of course.

Drop that Test to 250 mgs or 300mgs and with your Mast your control of E will be easy.

Well that's my 2cents Good luck

Oh next time I'd like more stats. Always so we know what e are dealing with.

OH, OH as Meg said you really need to get that sensitive assay with that E2, must I say.
 
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Tron nailed it again.

I personally like higher test as my experience is that I get more strength out of the cycle that way. I'm on a lower test/deca cycle right now with moderate tren and masteron, and while the results are what I'd expect - it's just not the same for me. Of course, I'm an estradiol Nazi, which is where most of the mistakes come from.

My .02c :)
 
I'm an estradiol Nazi, which is where most of the mistakes come from.


Halfwit , Ah,haa most of my mistakes ha ya think. Most of the time me too except when I ran Tren . I can't handle the Tren, it took 3 cycles to get to sink in.

Most other cycle were 750 min to 1 g of Test E with a stack
 
So if I were to lower the test to 200/week, would I raise it when done with the tren and run high test with the mast to the end? It doesn't seem that would be too terribly effective with it only being 6 more weeks, so I thought I'd ask.

I normally run my test at around 800mg when I blast, but this is my first tren experience. Just asking questions and getting opinions. I am intriqued a little with the thought of a tren supplementation to trt, but that's a topic for another time.
 
Whoa. Just had my first experience with tren cough. As soon ss I finished, I tasted the metal and knew it was coming. I remember halfwit saying once to try to stay calm and focus on your breathing, which is hard to do as your chest us tightening up. Maybe I just barely nicked a blood vessel, but I was able to control it with only a few coughs. If I hadn't heard halfwit explain it and how to manage it, I imagine I would have freaked out.
 
1-1 test tren but bear in mind my monster blasts are to the tune of 100 prop/ 100 tren-a either m w f or...50/50 ed m-f. Stacked w trt of course......
 
oldmusclemike said:
I'm an estradiol Nazi, which is where most of the mistakes come from.


Halfwit , Ah,haa most of my mistakes ha ya think. Most of the time me too except when I ran Tren . I can't handle the Tren, it took 3 cycles to get to sink in.

Most other cycle were 750 min to 1 g of Test E with a stack
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Tren is just such a wild card to be honest. I'm VERY lucky in that I discovered my boundaries early on with acetate so I could drop down really quickly. As long as I don't push the envelope too far, I usually only get the breathing/sweats/dreams/occasional irrational thoughts.

Definitely a hormone that demands respect!

MJF said:
So if I were to lower the test to 200/week, would I raise it when done with the tren and run high test with the mast to the end? It doesn't seem that would be too terribly effective with it only being 6 more weeks, so I thought I'd ask.

I normally run my test at around 800mg when I blast, but this is my first tren experience. Just asking questions and getting opinions. I am intriqued a little with the thought of a tren supplementation to trt, but that's a topic for another time.
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You can bring test up if you want, but remember that it takes a couple weeks for it to build up while the tren is exiting. I am of the firm belief that keeping things stable is huge in preventing problems.

For that reason, I try not to change things too drastically during a blast, but I'd be lying if I said I hadn't before. I actually have my last pin tonight of tren and have bittersweet feelings about it. But the body needs a break; can't be superman all the time. :)
 
OP---the tren cough is so violent I only dabble w it. It s like getting pummeled in a prison fight...scarey.
 
I got the tren cough recently for the first time. I've used tren many times over many years. I thought I was going down! Wow that was a crazy experience! Kinda made me reevaluate my tren usage for a moment! Felt like 15 min but realistically probably only a few minutes. Sweating, hot yet cold and coughing like I never have before! Fun shit lol
 
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