Tren's effects on sleeping

Once you use tren long enough, you just resort yourself to the fact that 50% of the time your going to get tren cough and think your fucking dying for about 5 minutes, your sleep patterns will be completely fucked, you will end up soaken wet with sweat by the middle of a sleepless night, the racing thoughts are more from being delirious dut to sleep deprivation..... But when the morning rolls around after another sleepless night and you look in the mirror and your abs look like fucking beer cans..... It'll all be worth it!! Lol
 
I know that people preach to try the Acetate first to make sure that you can handle Tren and I totally understand the reasoning behind that. But I have read on numerous forums that alotta people think that the sides from the Acetate are Harsher then the enethate and i'm glad I took the long ester first and didnt have any problems personally.


Tren is tren bro. There is no difference between enan and ace other than the time it takes to get blood levels up and then get them down again upon stopping. Esters have nothing to do with sides other than enan will take longer for the sides to go away when you quit.

I think alot of this fallacy stems from the fact that people dont take into consideration the weight of the 2 different esters when theyre comparing dosages. 100mg of tren e IS NOT equal to 100mg of tren ace. In fact mg for mg, tren ace is 25% stronger than tren enan. So if youre running 300mg a week of Tren E, and thats a pretty moderate dose for a beginner, thats only equivalent to 35mg of tren ace ED. Not many people are going to get sides off 35mg of tren ace ED. You may think "eh, 25% isnt really that much" but its absolutely huge when youre talking about a drug with a 500/500 anabolic to androgenic ratio.

You gotta take this into consideration otherwise its apples and oranges.
 
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Once you use tren long enough, you just resort yourself to the fact that 50% of the time your going to get tren cough and think your fucking dying for about 5 minutes, your sleep patterns will be completely fucked, you will end up soaken wet with sweat by the middle of a sleepless night, the racing thoughts are more from being delirious dut to sleep deprivation..... But when the morning rolls around after another sleepless night and you look in the mirror and your abs look like fucking beer cans..... It'll all be worth it!! Lol


youre the fuckin man... great response haha
 
im at 100mgs a day i get the metallic taste and wierd fuckin dreams, i have a sleep disorder and get perscribed trazadone, i konks you the fuck out! dream are very weird and vivid almost feels real. Been on for three weeks and a few days, sides arent nothing i cant handle so far, 5 more weeks to go we will see huh.

I wish I could get vivid dreams! Actually I wish I could dream at all, I'm probably not sleeping well enough to get much REM sleep.
 
Tren cough only happened for me when i injected to quickly and the sweats were terrible...I would litterally soak the sheets. It doesn't have anything to do with being ug or not these are just the sides you have to deal with when you use tren. I brewed my own and had some of the sides. I have shitty sleep already so I never noticed any diff in my sleep but melatonin and trazodone works for me...I have bad trippy hazed sleep at nights if I don't take something to help me fall asleep anyways.
 
im taking 500mgs. test cyp an 200 mgs. ten e for 10 weeks first time on the tren so im taking a relatively low dose. but it seems like the people who take the lower doses of tren e vs. tren ace experience alot less sides maybe 1 or none. i hope im one of those i really dont feel like being stuck crazy for two weeks till it clears my system. ne ways good luck. and get big!
 
interesting read this thread, i sometimes have to take temazepam to get sleep but that stuff makes my head spin hard can't imagine what it would be like on tren....
 
also gotta question it was my first time goin in the thigh 1ml test cyp an 1ml tren e and my fucking leg is killin me like i was doin squats all day. like bad. did ne one experience that ever? is it normal? it was a virgin muscle any feedback would be great guys!
 
been on my tren 2 weeks now, and I still sleep like a baby!!
It's fucked up, but I wish I had sides like people talk about so I would just know my shit is good cause I feel nothing out of the ordinary.
As far as sleep doc prescribed me ambien after my brain injury which worked like a charm, but I hate taking shit that I can end up having to rely on. Weed always worked well for me too lol but those days are gone for me

Besides not feeling any sides, do you see any results that may suggest your gear is good?
 
when I was on tren a, it was the worst 8 weeks of sleep I could have imagined. I call it 'trensomnia'. I would just lay there for hours sweating and not being able to catch a wink, every night. It also took about 4 wks for tren cough to come on, after which point, it happened routinely.
Tren is an excellent drug, but the sides will throw some curve balls
 
guys i put 250 mds of test cyp an 200 of tren e in one leg an 250 of test cyp in my other leg its beem 3 days since i did it an seriously too painful to walk wtf is goin on is my shit bunk or is this normal for a virgin muscle????????????????
 
Last night I had my worst sweat episode yet...My sleeps been fucked from the beginning, honestly my sleep wasnt that great BEFORE tren. Ever since I started Adderall my sleep has been fucked but last night I popped an Oxycodone left over from my wisdom teeth removal, was feeling pretty decent, still couldnt sleep though. Woke up after 2 different short naps during the night with a wet pillow that I had to flip over. Might look into some 5HTP for sleep issues, if you guys havent heard of it, look it up, they sell it at the herbal supplement stores. If that doesn't work I might hit up the doc and blame my sleep patterns on my Adderall and see if he won't prescribe me something for anxiety or restlessness. Even the pramipexole, which is supposed to help with restless legs syndrome, doesn't help my sleep.
 
So I took 5mg of melatonin and it definitely helped last night. The dreams kicked in since I was actually sleeping. One after the next, all weird. I have weird dreams often though so that could be from the tren or not. I'll go through phases of dreams and then no dreams for a while so I guess if they continue it's from the tren.

On another note I just pinned shot 2 w the tren in my left shoulder and it fuckin hurts right now. I used a 25g 1" for the first time and it went in super smooth but when I pushed on the pin the fuckin oil came out where the pin screws in & I lost about .2mg which pissed me the fuck off. Maybe I screwed it in too tight or it was fucked up I don't know...never happened before. I switched back go the regular 23g 1 1/2". Enough with the rant

Thanks for keeping this thread going...some
good feedback for us all
 
So I took 5mg of melatonin and it definitely helped last night. The dreams kicked in since I was actually sleeping. One after the next, all weird. I have weird dreams often though so that could be from the tren or not. I'll go through phases of dreams and then no dreams for a while so I guess if they continue it's from the tren.

On another note I just pinned shot 2 w the tren in my left shoulder and it fuckin hurts right now. I used a 25g 1" for the first time and it went in super smooth but when I pushed on the pin the fuckin oil came out where the pin screws in & I lost about .2mg which pissed me the fuck off. Maybe I screwed it in too tight or it was fucked up I don't know...never happened before. I switched back go the regular 23g 1 1/2". Enough with the rant

Thanks for keeping this thread going...some
good feedback for us all

WOW, Wow!! Roid-rage?? Relax!

lol
 
Yea yea very funny... my pin had 1mL of prop .5 of sterile oil & .6 of tren...when I lost that .2 there was no way to tell what it was... If that doesn't piss you off yous a beeeetch lol
 
23g 1.5 needle in the DELT? all i can say is...OW. mine are lean and I get away with 5/8s and I've been loving not shooting the 1 incher in my delts anymore...Im a helluva lot less sore.
 
Yea I know ... Got used to em so it's not too bad & I don't go all the way in with it. I have more 21 1"ers and hopefully next time it doesn't fuck up again. I just figured I'd lost enough already and didn't wanna lose anymore. I have plenty of prop but the tren is somewhat limited
 
Yea yea very funny... my pin had 1mL of prop .5 of sterile oil & .6 of tren...when I lost that .2 there was no way to tell what it was... If that doesn't piss you off yous a beeeetch lol

my homie was gone so i had to do my shot myself last night. left like .1 or .2 of sus in the shot, i was fucking pissed. i wasnt going to re pin my self so it got tossed.
 
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Besides not feeling any sides, do you see any results that may suggest your gear is good?

I am looking a bit leaner..nothing spectacular, but I notice it. The 2 veins that run from your abs into your legs are finally coming out for me.
I had been running test for 10 weeks with slight aggresion, but the last 2 weeks I'v been on tren have been out of control, I always have a headache and my mind is going fuckin nuts, I really need to control myself. (coincidence??? I dont know!)
Strength hasn't really increased too much.

Glad the melatonin helped massive...share some of your dreams man lol!
 
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