zephyr_987
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Hello everyone, Please bear with me, as i have been very detailed. i am 29 years old. test was 385 when i checked 6 months ago. estrodiol 13.6. i weigh 215 lbs at 20 percent body fat. high bp thats contolled, upside down lipids for the last 3 years despite eating low carb, moderate fat medium protein for the last 2 yrs. in fact eat less than 100grams carbs a day most days! take up to 9 tabs of fish oil daily. , weight lifted since 14, surf 3x wk. paddleboard for cardio. higher than ideal glucose readings tho not diabetic.
ive been on TRT for the last 5 weeks.so far its been an awful, counter-productive experience. i started by pinning 90mg twice a week totalling 180mg/week. by the time i pinned my 3rd shot, i pinned a little too much at about 120mg. the very next day i started getting slight dizzy spells. turned out to be my blood pressure was elevated. (this is all within the first 10 days!) a little background, I have been dealing with high blood pressure for years now & i take my BP reading 2x day. I also take an ACE inhibitor, Accupril at 5mg/ 2x per day at a total of 10mg. It keeps it nice and controlled. normally at 120/80 although sometimes i get up to 130/85.
i know my symptoms when my bp gets too high & knew immediately it was elevated. the next morning i woke up and my BP was at 145/90. dizzy spells while standing got worse and now accompanied by a tension headache at the back of my head, top of my neck. i took my bp reading while standing and it read 158/97. although when i laid back in a chair read around 135/88 or laid down it returned to normal 120/83. i am not a nervous person, i know this was not due to anxiety. i start getting winded very easily throughout the day. at this point i up my accupril to 15mg/day which provided very little relief. i remember the research i did years ago when i used to cycle and knew that perhaps my Hemotacrit was elevated. i decided that if the next day i felt worse, i would go to donate blood as i knew it could only help at this point.
so at this point, im at three days after 3rd injection, i woke up short of breath. tightness in chest. i showered and then took my blood pressure while standing. 171/110! heart rate was 90 beats per min this is while standing. i sat in my couch and dropped bp it went down to 145/95 and laid down and it was almost perfect at 127/85. i looked up the nearest donation place and have my friend drive me over since i was so out of breath and dizzy. He even noticed that i couldn't talk without stopping mid sentence to catch my breath. my chest felt so tight with pressure and just short of breath! i get to donation place, fill out questionnaire, they take my bp while sitting and came out to 140/85. i told them it was because their bus was freezing and i was nervous. my hemoglobin came in at 17.2 not crazy high, tho normally im at 15.4 or so.. donate 1 pint and feel better as soon as i stand up. breathlessness was gone on the ride home. get home and take BP while Standing came in at 145/95 much improved from the mornings reading at 171/110! and virtually normal while sitting and laying down . the only this i noticed different was that i had fast heart rate for the next week or so at over 100-120 bpm regardless of activity, sitting standing etc. but overall major improvement. this whole shit scared me and i let the rest of the Testosterone Enanthate work its way out of my system for the following 12 days or so. i didnt feel awful during this despite the continued high bp while standing. just a little lethargic by the 14th day withoiut Testosterone. i decided to pin again since i knew hematocrit couldn't possibly be an issue. i lowered my dose down to 70mg 1x a week. very low, conservative dose. and again, by the 2nd day after injection my back of head/neck headache returned while standing, slight dizzy spell etc.. tho chest tightness was not present thank God! i decided to do a few things. immediately jumped on 81mg baby aspirin. i doubled up my ace inhibitor dose to 15mg/ morning 10mg/late afternoon totaling 25mg/day. this has been keeping my blood pressure perfect while sitting, better tahn perfect while laying down HOWEVER standing its up to 150/85. this all by the way is what is referred to as orthostatic hypertension, at least the diastolic is relatively controlled. so i got pissed off at all this. such a conservative fuckn dose & still messing with my Blood pressure. i started to trouble shoot possibilities.. i thought " well maybe, im retaining water due to high estradiol?" so i ordered a hormone panel and my results were as followed:
WBC 6.3 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL
RBC 5.47 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
Hemoglobin 15.4 12.6-17.7 g/dL
Hematocrit 45.8 37.5-51.0 % ( was 44.1, 7 days prior to this test in a doctor checkup)
Platelets 225 150-379 x10E3/uL
Glucose, Serum 123 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL (i ate 30min prior)
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum 1.10 0.76-1.27 mg/dL
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 90 >59 mL/min/1.73
eGFR If Africn Am 104 >59 mL/min/1.73
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 12 8-19
Sodium, Serum 140 136-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.4 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 98 97-106 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 25 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.5 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.3 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.2 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 52 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 41 0-44 IU/L
Testosterone, Serum 798 348-1197 ng/dL (this is on 70mg/week)
LH 0.9 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH serum 1.5 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
Estradiol 16.5 7.6-42.6 pg/mL
much to my dismay, i found estro to be almost ideal. I guessi really wanted an answer as to why im repsponding so badly to moderate test doses. triglycerides where 158 in a blood test done 23 weeks earlier. cholesterol total was 199, although a upside down ratio HDL 30, LDL 138. at this point, im reluctant to pin again because im tired of feeling like shit due to my BP. i have read a few posts where people say that testosterone sometimes acts in a sort of Stimulant like manner for some people?? perhaps the conversion to DHT? its the only thimg i can think that would make my blood pressure high while standing yet normal while sitting/ laying down? does the cardiac muscle of the heart have androgen receptors that perhaps gets stimulated and thus results in the heart pumping harder (high systolic pressure??) obviously estrodriol is a non issue and kidney function is fine. no water /sodium retention that i can tell. maybe my gear is made with something that im allergic to tho my injection is literally painless. (use gymlabs @300mg/ml) super potent/heavy dose tho i measure it to be at the doses stated. PLEASE ANY INPUT WILL BE APPRECIATED. I use no stims, no coffee/preworkout. i am at a complete loss. thank you in advance am taking celery seed extract 1500mg, 2x day, olive leaf extract 2x day, 9 grams fish oil daily, baby aspirin, 1800mg Alpha lipoic acid, 3 grams cinnamon day, 1 gallon water a day, tons of olive oil, reduced sodium diet , low carb etc.
ive been on TRT for the last 5 weeks.so far its been an awful, counter-productive experience. i started by pinning 90mg twice a week totalling 180mg/week. by the time i pinned my 3rd shot, i pinned a little too much at about 120mg. the very next day i started getting slight dizzy spells. turned out to be my blood pressure was elevated. (this is all within the first 10 days!) a little background, I have been dealing with high blood pressure for years now & i take my BP reading 2x day. I also take an ACE inhibitor, Accupril at 5mg/ 2x per day at a total of 10mg. It keeps it nice and controlled. normally at 120/80 although sometimes i get up to 130/85.
i know my symptoms when my bp gets too high & knew immediately it was elevated. the next morning i woke up and my BP was at 145/90. dizzy spells while standing got worse and now accompanied by a tension headache at the back of my head, top of my neck. i took my bp reading while standing and it read 158/97. although when i laid back in a chair read around 135/88 or laid down it returned to normal 120/83. i am not a nervous person, i know this was not due to anxiety. i start getting winded very easily throughout the day. at this point i up my accupril to 15mg/day which provided very little relief. i remember the research i did years ago when i used to cycle and knew that perhaps my Hemotacrit was elevated. i decided that if the next day i felt worse, i would go to donate blood as i knew it could only help at this point.
so at this point, im at three days after 3rd injection, i woke up short of breath. tightness in chest. i showered and then took my blood pressure while standing. 171/110! heart rate was 90 beats per min this is while standing. i sat in my couch and dropped bp it went down to 145/95 and laid down and it was almost perfect at 127/85. i looked up the nearest donation place and have my friend drive me over since i was so out of breath and dizzy. He even noticed that i couldn't talk without stopping mid sentence to catch my breath. my chest felt so tight with pressure and just short of breath! i get to donation place, fill out questionnaire, they take my bp while sitting and came out to 140/85. i told them it was because their bus was freezing and i was nervous. my hemoglobin came in at 17.2 not crazy high, tho normally im at 15.4 or so.. donate 1 pint and feel better as soon as i stand up. breathlessness was gone on the ride home. get home and take BP while Standing came in at 145/95 much improved from the mornings reading at 171/110! and virtually normal while sitting and laying down . the only this i noticed different was that i had fast heart rate for the next week or so at over 100-120 bpm regardless of activity, sitting standing etc. but overall major improvement. this whole shit scared me and i let the rest of the Testosterone Enanthate work its way out of my system for the following 12 days or so. i didnt feel awful during this despite the continued high bp while standing. just a little lethargic by the 14th day withoiut Testosterone. i decided to pin again since i knew hematocrit couldn't possibly be an issue. i lowered my dose down to 70mg 1x a week. very low, conservative dose. and again, by the 2nd day after injection my back of head/neck headache returned while standing, slight dizzy spell etc.. tho chest tightness was not present thank God! i decided to do a few things. immediately jumped on 81mg baby aspirin. i doubled up my ace inhibitor dose to 15mg/ morning 10mg/late afternoon totaling 25mg/day. this has been keeping my blood pressure perfect while sitting, better tahn perfect while laying down HOWEVER standing its up to 150/85. this all by the way is what is referred to as orthostatic hypertension, at least the diastolic is relatively controlled. so i got pissed off at all this. such a conservative fuckn dose & still messing with my Blood pressure. i started to trouble shoot possibilities.. i thought " well maybe, im retaining water due to high estradiol?" so i ordered a hormone panel and my results were as followed:
WBC 6.3 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL
RBC 5.47 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
Hemoglobin 15.4 12.6-17.7 g/dL
Hematocrit 45.8 37.5-51.0 % ( was 44.1, 7 days prior to this test in a doctor checkup)
Platelets 225 150-379 x10E3/uL
Glucose, Serum 123 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL (i ate 30min prior)
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum 1.10 0.76-1.27 mg/dL
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 90 >59 mL/min/1.73
eGFR If Africn Am 104 >59 mL/min/1.73
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 12 8-19
Sodium, Serum 140 136-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.4 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 98 97-106 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 25 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.5 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.3 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.2 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 52 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 41 0-44 IU/L
Testosterone, Serum 798 348-1197 ng/dL (this is on 70mg/week)
LH 0.9 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH serum 1.5 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
Estradiol 16.5 7.6-42.6 pg/mL
much to my dismay, i found estro to be almost ideal. I guessi really wanted an answer as to why im repsponding so badly to moderate test doses. triglycerides where 158 in a blood test done 23 weeks earlier. cholesterol total was 199, although a upside down ratio HDL 30, LDL 138. at this point, im reluctant to pin again because im tired of feeling like shit due to my BP. i have read a few posts where people say that testosterone sometimes acts in a sort of Stimulant like manner for some people?? perhaps the conversion to DHT? its the only thimg i can think that would make my blood pressure high while standing yet normal while sitting/ laying down? does the cardiac muscle of the heart have androgen receptors that perhaps gets stimulated and thus results in the heart pumping harder (high systolic pressure??) obviously estrodriol is a non issue and kidney function is fine. no water /sodium retention that i can tell. maybe my gear is made with something that im allergic to tho my injection is literally painless. (use gymlabs @300mg/ml) super potent/heavy dose tho i measure it to be at the doses stated. PLEASE ANY INPUT WILL BE APPRECIATED. I use no stims, no coffee/preworkout. i am at a complete loss. thank you in advance am taking celery seed extract 1500mg, 2x day, olive leaf extract 2x day, 9 grams fish oil daily, baby aspirin, 1800mg Alpha lipoic acid, 3 grams cinnamon day, 1 gallon water a day, tons of olive oil, reduced sodium diet , low carb etc.