Anabolicsrevisited
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Just wanted to know what folks prefer as far as Test usage... P, C, or E?
TRT preferences... C, P, or E
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nutpuncher
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E or C, but no P
Megatron28
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E and C are virtually the same. P is fine if you want to pin ED or EOD for the rest of your life.
Nebido is another option for TRT.
Nebido is another option for TRT.
Billegitimate
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P for sure! I've switched between C and P a couple times over the last few years. Even with blood tests showing basically identical levels I feel awesome with P. Finally have some that doesn't make me stink (ethyl oleate oozes out my pores) and back on it. Yay!
Right now I take a single shot as late at night as I can, last thing before bed. .13ml in a .3ml insulin syringe with a 5/16 31g needle. Takes a minute and a half, painless, subq, and 13mg of prop each night keeps me around 1000 total test. No AI needed.
My theory is I get a spike overnight, mimicking the natural T fluctuations, and that's why I feel better even at the same total T levels. 91mg of prop a week keeps me right where 105mg of cyp a week kept me.
I rotate through a lot of sites since its daily injections. It's all subq, so my shots are easy to remember: Top ab, middle ab, lower ab, then across to my upper thigh, back to my glute. I get 7 easy to remember and identify subq locations on each side of my body, so each only gets a shot once every two weeks.
Talked to a doc who said I was crazy, but this gives me by far the best sexual benefits. Athletic performance essentially the same, but my mornings involved a few minutes of visualizing fat ugly women before I can pee.
Right now I take a single shot as late at night as I can, last thing before bed. .13ml in a .3ml insulin syringe with a 5/16 31g needle. Takes a minute and a half, painless, subq, and 13mg of prop each night keeps me around 1000 total test. No AI needed.
My theory is I get a spike overnight, mimicking the natural T fluctuations, and that's why I feel better even at the same total T levels. 91mg of prop a week keeps me right where 105mg of cyp a week kept me.
I rotate through a lot of sites since its daily injections. It's all subq, so my shots are easy to remember: Top ab, middle ab, lower ab, then across to my upper thigh, back to my glute. I get 7 easy to remember and identify subq locations on each side of my body, so each only gets a shot once every two weeks.
Talked to a doc who said I was crazy, but this gives me by far the best sexual benefits. Athletic performance essentially the same, but my mornings involved a few minutes of visualizing fat ugly women before I can pee.
Billegitimate
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Thanks for the thoughts!
I monitor bloodwork closely and ALT/AST are always good. Even when I did a short run of anavar at 40mg a day, my liver values barely budged, though I was taking extra NAC during that time and I have 1 or 2 alcoholic drinks a year. Man, I didn't add much mass, but I was strong like a bull during that time! Easy to get addicted to that feeling, no doubt. But that's a once a year activity as far as I'm concerned Love my liver too much.
When you take into consideration that my total test prop is only 91mg a week, yielding about 72mg of raw test, it's a pretty small amount overall. If you can find a doc that will prescribe it and find a compounding pharmacy to fill the script, I highly recommend people on TRT try it. Just start with about 85% of the dosage (in mg obviously) of test cyp.
I actually feel so much better on it that I've wanted to find test acetate. It's even faster absorbing, so I'd get a little more spike overnight when the body would normally make it. But I couldn't find a U.S. pharmacy that would compound test acetate for me. I'd be interested in trying it and seeing how it compares. Could always go back to prop, but don't know without trying it. I know everyone is pursuing even levels, but if doing nightly injections I think the spike does something different. And my E2 is just low enough that way that I don't need an AI whereas the same TT levels with cyp made my E2 just a little higher.
I monitor bloodwork closely and ALT/AST are always good. Even when I did a short run of anavar at 40mg a day, my liver values barely budged, though I was taking extra NAC during that time and I have 1 or 2 alcoholic drinks a year. Man, I didn't add much mass, but I was strong like a bull during that time! Easy to get addicted to that feeling, no doubt. But that's a once a year activity as far as I'm concerned Love my liver too much.
When you take into consideration that my total test prop is only 91mg a week, yielding about 72mg of raw test, it's a pretty small amount overall. If you can find a doc that will prescribe it and find a compounding pharmacy to fill the script, I highly recommend people on TRT try it. Just start with about 85% of the dosage (in mg obviously) of test cyp.
I actually feel so much better on it that I've wanted to find test acetate. It's even faster absorbing, so I'd get a little more spike overnight when the body would normally make it. But I couldn't find a U.S. pharmacy that would compound test acetate for me. I'd be interested in trying it and seeing how it compares. Could always go back to prop, but don't know without trying it. I know everyone is pursuing even levels, but if doing nightly injections I think the spike does something different. And my E2 is just low enough that way that I don't need an AI whereas the same TT levels with cyp made my E2 just a little higher.
Billegitimate
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No trouble sleeping ever. No oily skin. I just felt like I had transported my late 40s judgement back into my 18 year old body. 
nutpuncher
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I recently pinned test prop subq and got a golf ball size bump that was reddish and warm. Worst PIP. I even filtered using whatman filter. I am thinking bad reaction was more due to brewer. It's been roughly 2 weeks and I still have about nickle size bump but no pain.
cybrsage
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How much did you pin? I have started pinning my pharma test (I have a script) subq, but I only use 0.375ml per injection (twice a week). No, I cannot measure it that exactly, I usually end up with about 0.4ml. Sine it is 200mg/ml, that means it is roughly 80mg per injection, or 160mg per week. I have no issues injecting that little amount of thick liquid subq - just have to do it VERY slowly...take a full minute or more to inject it.
Anabolicsrevisited
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I pin .5ml twice weekly of tesp prop IM and rotate sites pretty well, no PIP after initial dose. So let me ask a silly question, some of you pin subQ? Doesn't that slow down the absorption into the bloodstream?
Anabolicsrevisited
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Can't seem to find the Nebido available through my regular means...sounds very interesting with the less frequent injections. How well does it work as far as gains?
Billegitimate
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Yes, does slow it a bit. But the convenience and comfort of a 5/16 31g needle just under the skin versus the harpoons some of the IM guys are using is the difference between doing it and not. No way would I be accepting of a nightly IM shot unless the payoff was something much greater than really good TRT.
Anabolicsrevisited
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Understandable if you pin ED. IM seems to work fine for me and I'm seeing solid results, occasionally I manage to stick a sensitive spot in the thighs and have to back it out and re-stick, but I don't mind as long as I'm getting stronger/bigger. Admittedly I would like to try the Nebido so I could reduce the pins. I run test-e with occasional p bumps if I feel like I trained excessively hard to get that feeling of an "edge" on recovery.
Anabolicsrevisited
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1000mg? Thats like 2 1/2 slin pins!
