Turinabol Cycle advice - Thank You

[peter_zxzx]

Hi,

I'll make a tbol cycle soon, and I've a question, with the pill's I have, I have 2 options:

1st - 4 weeks at 60mg/day
2nd - 5 weeks at 50mg/day

then PCT - nolva 40/40/20/20

Wich is best option? 1st or 2nd???


My stats:
age 26
height -5 feet 7 inches
weight - 152 pounds
BF 13.3%

Thank You in advance

 

[DADAWG]

welcome to ology

a healthy male makes roughly 100-200 mg a wek of testosteron and test is more powerfull than tbol. using tbol will shut down test and your barely using enough tbol by itself to make up for the lost test. wait until your ready to run test along with the tbol .

 

[Cobra Strike]

x2

 

[nate212]

^^^x3 and also either way you cut it thats not enough time to get gains from it, unless i'm way off it takes awhile to get gains from tbol

 

[Cobra Strike]

ya tbol is weak shit

 

[peter_zxzx]

Thankx guys,

I really jst want to keep light, last tbol cycle 50mg/day for 25 days, i've gained 8 pounds, I want small gains.

but from the 2 options, what do you think?

 

[nate212]

Man I really dont think it will make any difference. Really. You are dealing with week dope that is usually run over much longer period to make gains.

I'll venture to say the 8 lbs was placebo and secondary to getting all fuckin amped up because you were taking some dope. I know that effect is real.

Take some testosterone. The gains are mellow, you will not turn to fuckin mister olympia over night.

How long you been lifting?

 

[nate212]

Yea i just looked at your stats again, nd the 8 lbs was almost 100% sure 90% placebo. Im not saying that is a bad thing it is just the way it is. Just dont trick yourself into thinking it was from the dope.

This is the deal. If yhou are going to take dope make it worth while right? Do the right compound for the right amount of time and get real gains. Thats my feeling. I'm also a big fan of running test cause I shut things down not runing it. that does suck.

Why not run the test. Answer is people want mellow gains, i under stand this. Thats part of the misconception though. The guys you see who are all roided up and fucking swoll have been lifting for long time and doing it right. Not half assing it for 2 months out of the year in some effort to get "cut" or more defined like a woman.

You will like test, it is just as illegal as tbol so why the fuck not. Gains better and you feel better that what i think amigo

 

[peter_zxzx]

About 2 and half years, I dont want to be mister olympia LOL
Just a lean and fit guy, i hope

8lbs placebo? I hope not

A lot of people do short cycles, 4-5 weeks, and since it's an oral, I shouldn't do it for to long.

 

[UserAt204]

Fuck. I'm gonna have to with draw myself from mr Olympia . What if I take Tbol for 9 weeks, do you think I will be jacked then. Jk

Peter. You are missing the point. Listen to Nate and Dawg

 

[nate212]

About 2 and half years, I dont want to be mister olympia LOL
Just a lean and fit guy, i hope

8lbs placebo? I hope not

A lot of people do short cycles, 4-5 weeks, and since it's an oral, I shouldn't do it for to long.

You can run the orals for longer you just have to monitor the liver function. In most cases unless you have premorbid liver disease or take something that compromises liver function you will be ok. Much of the information on OT was from the GDR in the 1960's nd was based on long term use, not 4 weeks. They were using for years on this stuff and other compounds like test. I think that is what is missed on the common internet searches is that the athletes that got good gains from this also had access to the testosterone.

And yes 8 lbs can be placebo, not all but significant amount. That would depend on your level of committment prior to starting the cycle. If you were hiting it hard training right eating right etc I would say less placebo but that usually is not the case. If it were I would venture to say you would be bigger. I know you are only 5'7 but the weight ispretty light. Again just my feelings

 

[nate212]

Eat clean do cardio take some test with the tbol for a longer cycle and you will look good and lean and athletic or whatever. I know what you mean thought. You will be fine man.

Listen chief, i'm not here pusing the idea that more dope is better, not at all. I just believe in keeping things balanced and feeling good. and when i say placebo i am not saying you didnt gain good weight. placebo just means that if you pay good money for some shit you are going to hit it hard in gym and eat good too. that combination results in muscle gains.

 

[DADAWG]

Thankx guys,

I really jst want to keep light, last tbol cycle 50mg/day for 25 days, i've gained 8 pounds, I want small gains.

but from the 2 options, what do you think?

theres no way for you to gain 8 lbs of lean mass on 25 days of tbol unless you were a etheopian to begine with.
if it was true thats all anyone would ever need .

 

[Cobra Strike]

About 2 and half years, I dont want to be mister olympia LOL
Just a lean and fit guy, i hope

8lbs placebo? I hope not

A lot of people do short cycles, 4-5 weeks, and since it's an oral, I shouldn't do it for to long.

this should fix everything for you...look at nates avatar...does that look like test is going to make you a fuckin monster??? Hes perfectly fit...id say end of debate

 

[nate212]

this should fix everything for you...look at nates avatar...does that look like test is going to make you a fuckin monster??? Hes perfectly fit...id say end of debate

Hey does that mean i look like a fuckin girl? maybe one of the twilight fags? hehehe

that picture is about 3 weeks into the test prop. thats me at 260. man i could be 280 and still not look all fuckin tore up

 

[Cobra Strike]

Hey does that mean i look like a fuckin girl? maybe one of the twilight fags? hehehe

that picture is about 3 weeks into the test prop. thats me at 260. man i could be 280 and still not look all fuckin tore up

hahha my bad bro...I was definitely not meaning it like that...and I know how pictures lie....260??? jesus!!! Big enough..but the pic shows you lookin lean and cut to me...looks like a well sculpted and trained body...im not hitting on you...i dont think??

lol

 

[nate212]

nice, thats about as fat as i like to get. what you dont see in that pic is my head hitting the door frame, at 6'5 you can hold a shitload of size and not look to big.

 

[Cobra Strike]

nice, thats about as fat as i like to get. what you dont see in that pic is my head hitting the door frame, at 6'5 you can hold a shitload of size and not look to big.

My point exactly!! You dont look 6'5 in that pic! You are right though...it takes a whole lot more meat to make a guy your height look JACKED!!! lol But you do look TOUGH AS FUCK!!!

I sure would like to know what 260 feels like...im just running a measley 220 right now at 6'

 

[nate212]

I love it!!! tough as fuck!!! 260 feels fuckin good, feels big like hard to fit in some places big. Much bigger than 240.

 

[peter_zxzx]

Thank you for your opinions, I'll rethink my cycle before I start it