Veterans: Help an actor get a job by transforming his body in 5 months!

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SkinnyOutOfShapeActor

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Alright, I know the protocal that people like myself who have been uncommitted to the gym their entire lives get blasted on forums because juicing is stupid unless you have built up your maximum natural base, but my situation is a little different and I've done a lot of research on what I should be using.

I realize AAS is just a small part of it and a tool, but I need all the help I can get!

Here is the deal. I'm not a bodybuilder, I'm a 31 year old actor, and I have 5 months to completely transform my body for an acting job in an independant film. I don't need to become huge, but I have the typical lazy skinny fat body. My face is a little pudgy, neck chest and arm, legs thin. A little bit of bloat in the belly.


I worked out and ate well for one period of time in my life for 6 months years back, and I saw good results, but I simply need more and much faster.

My goals: I'd like larger arms, chest, shoulders, neck and carrying less fat in my face and stomach.

I don't want to be huge. Just a little more ripped and bigger in the right places.

I have seen people make such transformations on single cycles of AAS on Test and have done a lot of research. Quite simply: I will get to my goals lot quicker and more easily on Test than I will without it. Time is my obstacle here.

I don't need people to tell me not to do it because I've already thought long and hard about it, and have decided 100% to do it. This acting job means a lot to my career.

I've already bought my gear after a lot of research.

My first cycle is as follows:

(I've decided to keep it simple)

12 weeks Test Enanthate. (I have enough for 15 weeks in case I need to make adjustments)

Week 1: 1 G Front Load
Weeks 2-12: 500 mg

Aromasin 10mg every 3 days if needed

Clomid/Nolva PCT

I feel my body should respond very fast because not only will I have the AAS, but also the benefit of eating better + the quick positive change everyone gets after just beginning to work out.


This is very important to me so I plan on being 100% committed at the gym and with my diet.

In order to attain my goals, which are not to be huge, but bigger in the right places, a little leaner, and overall prettier and more chisled, I was wondering if some of the vets in here could help me out as far as advice in terms of diet and in the gym.

Thanks for any help in advance.
 
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a68rebel said:
You will reach your goal if you eat right and train properly.
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Thanks

AAS is going to help too.

For the physique I require what do you guys suggest on cycle dietwise?

Should I be looking for huge calories or will that get me too fat?

I need muscle in the right places but I also need to lean a bit too.
 
try to stick with a 20/40/40 fats/pro/carbs. with those ratios you will see great results, less carbs and more fats if feel your gaining to much bad weight, I like to use fitday.com to track what I'm eating to help me figure it out. eat 6 smaller meals a day it will speed up your metab, and protein shakes are not considered meals
 
Skinny, I have been at it for a long time and through my experience I can tell you your not going to become huge and lean after just 5 months...Its just not going to happen. However, if your looking to become lean and more healthy looking that IS possible after just 5 months. I'm not trying to discourge you by any means..I'm just being realistic.

If you only have 5 months I would say focus on eating right and taking in a lot of protein...Minimize your carbs..Check out the atkins diet that works wonders for most people.

As for the gym. I would go for medium to high volume range. If your 100% commited like you said you can intake high calories and high protein but keep your cardio constent. You need to find a medium.

As for AAS. Honestly, if your just going to put in 5 months I would just go natural or get your self on some clen. You dont need AAS at this point. Its NOT going to do you ANY good unless you continue to do cycle after cycle (meaning years and years of AAS use).

Hope this helped
 
what your missing out is "muscle memory"

Thats how alot of those guy blow uip after a cycle, they were already huge, lost alot of it, and blew up again.

your entire life you ate right for 6 months..........................

you might have eaten right, but eating to gain muscle is a completely different game.
 
exactly the best advise I got from 3j was to go to fitday and track it. I always thought I was eating enough and right, it turns out I wasn't. Diet has to be the hardest things for most to get right.
 
I agree with everyone else here. You can't just jump in the gym, get some gear and expect miracles.

Just in case you don't listen to any of us. Front loading is a waist and a good way seeing more sides. You wont get an acting job in you go in looking like a pimpled up kid with man boobs.... Be safe about it and don't push it. What you needed was to be training for this 1 1/2 ago. then maybe it would be better timing.
 
supersafado said:
I agree with everyone else here. You can't just jump in the gym, get some gear and expect miracles.

Just in case you don't listen to any of us. Front loading is a waist and a good way seeing more sides. You wont get an acting job in you go in looking like a pimpled up kid with man boobs.... Be safe about it and don't push it. What you needed was to be training for this 1 1/2 ago. then maybe it would be better timing.
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I'm not arguing with that at all but expectations have nothing to do with this. I didn't start training 1 1/2 years ago, I have only 5 months, and I have gear, and I'm starting from scratch.

This is the reality I'm facing.

So my goal in 5 months is not to have the most perfect body, but to have the best body possible.

Now I have the gear, and with the right training and diet I will have a better body in 5 months than I would have if I didn't have it.
 
barrysanders said:
Skinny, I have been at it for a long time and through my experience I can tell you your not going to become huge and lean after just 5 months...Its just not going to happen. However, if your looking to become lean and more healthy looking that IS possible after just 5 months. I'm not trying to discourge you by any means..I'm just being realistic.

If you only have 5 months I would say focus on eating right and taking in a lot of protein...Minimize your carbs..Check out the atkins diet that works wonders for most people.

As for the gym. I would go for medium to high volume range. If your 100% commited like you said you can intake high calories and high protein but keep your cardio constent. You need to find a medium.

As for AAS. Honestly, if your just going to put in 5 months I would just go natural or get your self on some clen. You dont need AAS at this point. Its NOT going to do you ANY good unless you continue to do cycle after cycle (meaning years and years of AAS use).

Hope this helped
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Well I'm not thinking of this as a long term proposition. I don't want to become a body builder or huge. My goal is simply to get my body to the best point possible in this 5 month timeframe.

5 months from now if I do the test cycle that I have, will my physique not be superior than it would if I hadn't done the cycle assuming I train and eat correctly?
 
SkinnyOutOfShapeActor said:
Well I'm not thinking of this as a long term proposition. I don't want to become a body builder or huge. My goal is simply to get my body to the best point possible in this 5 month timeframe.

5 months from now if I do the test cycle that I have, will my physique not be superior than it would if I hadn't done the cycle assuming I train and eat correctly?
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The answer is going to be NO. With the cycle that you have planned and the experience that you currently posess your results are reallly going to be about the same either way w/ or w/o AAS. And you wont have to worry about shutting down and recovery from AAS (hence PCT).

Now, if your going to continue to use AAS for years to come...then I would say go for it. But if this is just a 6-12 month go..its just not worth it bro. Especially, since your just wanting to get leaner...you dont need gear for that at all.

Trust me, get yourself on a good routine and get your eating schedule figured out and you'll be just fine...Those two things are the hardest part about this game.
 
:biggthump Well thanks for looking out for my best interests guys but I already have the gear so it's pretty tempting not to do.

I want to lean up, but also bulk up a little. I'm not muscular enough for the role as is.

I'm not necessarily sure I agree that the test won't help at all with proper training and diet. It' scientifically proven to assist in muscle growth and to help one hold on to muscle while losing fat. There are quite a few actors in my situation who cycle to get roles.
 
surfdog said:
try to stick with a 20/40/40 fats/pro/carbs. with those ratios you will see great results, less carbs and more fats if feel your gaining to much bad weight, I like to use fitday.com to track what I'm eating to help me figure it out. eat 6 smaller meals a day it will speed up your metab, and protein shakes are not considered meals
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Thanks I will definitely check that site out
 
SkinnyOutOfShapeActor said:
Not sure if there's any need for that:eyes:

As far as training and eating right cant I just follow one of the many great "eating and training right while on cycle" logs on the internet?
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Dude, if you are really serious about trying to transform yourself and are intent on running the gear you have do yourself a big favor and spend the money to sign up with 3J for a real diet.

As an old skinny bastard who just finished a mild cycle I can tell you the smartest thing I did was sign up with 3J for diet help.

Previously I had totally wasted a test cycle by not getting my diet in check. It was such a disaster I actually pulled the plug on it early because I could see by the lack of gains that I had effed it up completely.
 
I agree with most guys here, especially Barry. it takes years to build quality muscle even with AAS.

sure the test would give you the energy for the gym, your endurance would be up, you will be able to train harder and longer. the question is, harder and longer than what? you should have put at least 3 months into this first, cause those 3 months are like your on juice. your body is going to run more efficiently, your natty GH and TT will go up from exercise and healthier food choices.

its a hard thing to read something on the net, then go do it correctly. thats like saying ive never played organized football but ive seen the NFL so i can play.

its a learning experience, it takes time to get good at, like anything else.

Im still trying new shit in the gym and ive been there almost 4 years, and yes some things work WAY better for me than others. no matter what you read or hear, im learning you just can't cheat the clock, you HAVE to pay your dues.
 
My two cents is to get yourself to a strength and conditioning coach and get your diet lined up. If you are as serious as you say you are you're going to be working out harder than you've ever done before. You need to learn how to lift, how to warm up, stretch, and not hurt yourself. You probably have functional deficiencies that need rehab as well.

Like the others recommended, I'd stay away from the AAS but if you are he'll bent on it get with a good testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) regimen like Chip's.
 
Hoedown said:
My two cents is to get yourself to a strength and conditioning coach and get your diet lined up. If you are as serious as you say you are you're going to be working out harder than you've ever done before. You need to learn how to lift, how to warm up, stretch, and not hurt yourself. You probably have functional deficiencies that need rehab as well.

Like the others recommended, I'd stay away from the AAS but if you are he'll bent on it get with a good testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) regimen like Chip's.
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Good point! I didnt even think about that since I have never used a persay "coach." But for someone like you that is less experienced I think that would be a great help. Sell your gear and by a trainer. Very good piece of advice.

They will be able to work with you on getting big and lean in all the right areas that your wanting.
 
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