Jablesjables
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I wanted to throw clen in with my clean diet to help speed up fat loss, but i heard clen eats muscle as well. I dont want that. Or is there something else that targets fat only?
What burns your fat quickly w out burning muscle?
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As far as I know, clen is anti-catabolic (muscle sparing). Eat high protein and diet while you're on it
MrMitcheyBoy
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Yer my bad got mixed up with T3 last night but fuck it. clen will keep muscle but won't make them grow fast.
Die$eL~Man
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Diet & lots of Var....
brother bundy
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diet and cardio
RacerX920
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Agreed, no chemical can do its job without diet and cardio, and keep your resistance training strong, get enough protein, and stick with it. Often times we are putting crap food in our bodies and we think nothing of it, look at all the little things, read labels, menu's etc...
mispronounced
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a caloric deficit with a high amount of protein
Youngblood43
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As a lot of peeople are saying, its al diet and cardio. Just make sure your not trying to lose to much to fast..the key is to lose a little bit each week over a extended period of time, if ur doing high ammounts of cardio and slashibg tons of calories out of ur diet that is when you'll lose muscle. And anytime ur cutting carbs out raise the protein!
It is mostly the cardio and diet however there are some products I like supplementing with as well. Anavar (var) is awesome as stated above, I also like clen stacked with t3. Or an ECA stack. Also animal cuts is a good over the counter fat burner.
It is mostly the cardio and diet however there are some products I like supplementing with as well. Anavar (var) is awesome as stated above, I also like clen stacked with t3. Or an ECA stack. Also animal cuts is a good over the counter fat burner.
MeatHead96
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Diet and cardio is key. Cutting on AAS is best to keep from losing muscle. NTBM has a fatburner called n2flame thats definetly worth giving a shot.
builtbeast
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There were also some studies showing clen to be anabolic in pigs and certain rats. But humans do not have the same anabolic response to beta2 agonism so we do not get the same effect.
And be careful with the type of cardio. HIT can be very catabolic as when you push your muscles into anaerobic respiration they can not burn fatty acids for energy and instead rely on your muscle glycogen and amino acids and at that point you are catabolic and wasting muscle.
mlupi319
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Ever compare a competitive marathon runner vs a sprinter (classic comparison in real life) who is more ripped? who has more muscle? The only competitive athletes who have negligible muscle do aerobic exercise. Weight lifting is anaerobic
the truth is anaerobic activity puts stress on the muscles in a way that causes them to grow. As long as you don't over do HIIT you will be fine. 5-10 1minute sprints with a warmup and cool down 3x/ week is not going to deplete your glycogen stores unless on a very low carb diet..
Also anaerobic activity raises your metabolism in a way that is just not seen with aerobic activity
Also your body adapts very quickly to aerobic activity meaning you have to steadily increase the amount to get the same results
Anaerobic > Aerobic
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RacerX920
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Listen all the above posts, my advice is to learn to manipulate your diet in combination with cardio. If you can't learn to do this, then you will never stay at your goal. You can't stay on stuff like clen and T3 long term. However, these things can speed things up once you know what your doing.
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Too many people worry about muscle loss, After experimenting with various diets I've realised you will NEVER lose any muscle as long as you aren't in too much of a calorie deficit and you're eating enough protein. I've tried Intermittent fasting at a 500 kcal deficit, a VLCD diet and VLCD combined with IF, also tried Standard Keto diet and cyclic keto diet. For me the best one was the Standard keto diet, It's also the easiest diet to follow.
Compounds that are good for losing fat, sure clen is great apart from the tolerence build up, ephedrine and caffeine work really well too. If you want to run AAS to help Tren works really well.
Compounds that are good for losing fat, sure clen is great apart from the tolerence build up, ephedrine and caffeine work really well too. If you want to run AAS to help Tren works really well.
China_Wall
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clen is very catabolic on it's own, even more so when combined with t3... the ONLY way to limit muscle wasting while on these two compounds is to run gear at the same time (test/tren combo is nice, but anything combined with test will do) and diet high in protein/low-moderate in carbs... tale as old as time 
