what do you think this guy is taking?

[anzel]

About as natural as this douche View attachment 562041

LOL...but please jolter,dont even entertain this . The media is going crazy with this shit, its bad enough! Like its the first time a guy has pranced about in a dress!

 

[49ER]

About as natural as this douche View attachment 562041

Hey don't talk shit he's so brave lol

 

[Ziegler]

The only reason for the debate here is to either discredit the man or to make whoever doesn't believe it feel better about himself. So he says he wasn't using peds so it be so it is who gives a shit are you jelous ? Is you proving it an attempt to be little or discredit ? The reason guys play the natty card is because some stupid people think oh he used anabolics that's it that's all it took was a shot of anabolics. Give all the credit to the peds not the guy that worked hard for the muscles regardless of the anabolics. Lay the who does and who doesnt debate to bed. Focus on the results no matter what it takes to get there.

 

[49ER]

The only reason for the debate here is to either discredit the man or to make whoever doesn't believe it feel better about himself. So he says he wasn't using peds so it be so it is who gives a shit are you jelous ? Is you proving it an attempt to be little or discredit ? The reason guys play the natty card is because some stupid people think oh he used anabolics that's it that's all it took was a shot of anabolics. Give all the credit to the peds not the guy that worked hard for the muscles regardless of the anabolics. Lay the who does and who doesnt debate to bed. Focus on the results no matter what it takes to get there.

Can you shut up op asked what he is taking and you thought he was natty I'm simply pointing out there's no fucken way because unlike you I actually know about steroids. I don't know why you use? You admit you are fat and eat like shit and only do certain lifts cycle 4 weeks at a time your one twisted individual and love to fuck with people because your obviously not happy with yourself. You call me paranoid I know my shit and what is natural you think anything small is natural your just very naive and ignorant.

 

[Hypnotix]

Only 4 pages... I'm disappointed.

 

[anzel]

Can you shut up op asked what he is taking and you thought he was natty I'm simply pointing out there's no fucken way because unlike you I actually know about steroids. I don't know why you use? You admit you are fat and eat like shit and only do certain lifts cycle 4 weeks at a time your one twisted individual and love to fuck with people because your obviously not happy with yourself. You call me paranoid I know my shit and what is natural you think anything small is natural your just very naive and ignorant.

What 9er stated above in bold is exactly correct. Thats the point of the thread. Its evident that PEDs are being used by this individual. Mike, what are you arguing for???? Stop, just stop.

 

[Onk]

I have good form I don't care about semitry. You can't ignore my arrogance. I'm fat strong and dgaf about who does or doesn't find me attractive.

Admittedly I read your post this morning and didn't know what you meant. I figured you meant cemetery. Now I think you meant to say symmetry. I would have let it go...but as you say, I can't ignore your arrogance.

 

[Matt0071]

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So you can look this big and hard and shredded with veins popping at 20 naturally?

Fuck buds on the juice wagon, honestly if u think once this dude isn't taking shit and promoting a good diet and his protein supplements got him this physique like now.of days u see this shit happenING all the time
Hey he worked hard for that physique, but I hate when people knock aas and say shit like they have never touched steroids meanwhile it's written all over there face, fuckin joke, better to just keep it to yourself then to tell.people your all natty, cause it just ruins there credibility for the people that can tell if the dude juices or not

 

[Matt0071]

For one his head doesn't even match his body frame, looks ridiculous lol
Looks like his head is made.for his usual before aas 130lbs physique, looks like a cartoon character or a bobble head

 

[Ziegler]

Admittedly I read your post this morning and didn't know what you meant. I figured you meant cemetery. Now I think you meant to say symmetry. I would have let it go...but as you say, I can't ignore your arrogance.

Yes sir symmetry thank you. I don't care about perfect symmetry. I do care about leg day don't get me wrong I train legs and try to keep upper and lower body in symmetry but I don't care if I'm perfect all over symmetry having a thin waist line or this and that.

 

[Ziegler]

Fuck buds on the juice wagon, honestly if u think once this dude isn't taking shit and promoting a good diet and his protein supplements got him this physique like now.of days u see this shit happenING all the time
Hey he worked hard for that physique, but I hate when people knock aas and say shit like they have never touched steroids meanwhile it's written all over there face, fuckin joke, better to just keep it to yourself then to tell.people your all natty, cause it just ruins there credibility for the people that can tell if the dude juices or not

Why do you care so much if he says he didn't ? Would you want everyone knowing ? Do you want it going on the record that you are openly using peds ? That actually makes you a target for law enforcement. The cops like to bust people in the spot light that go around publicly blabbing about they're illegal activity like its no big deal. Its better to just say no and let the haters hate. Me personally I like the hush hush on the cuff keep it on the down low as it should be approach. These are underground activities dummy.

 

[Ziegler]

For one his head doesn't even match his body frame, looks ridiculous lol
Looks like his head is made.for his usual before aas 130lbs physique, looks like a cartoon character or a bobble head

You sound a little jelous like a school girl saying oh like her ass is too big and like omg look at her shoes.

 

[49ER]

Why do you care so much if he says he didn't ? Would you want everyone knowing ? Do you want it going on the record that you are openly using peds ? That actually makes you a target for law enforcement. The cops like to bust people in the spot light that go around publicly blabbing about they're illegal activity like its no big deal. Its better to just say no and let the haters hate. Me personally I like the hush hush on the cuff keep it on the down low as it should be approach. These are underground activities dummy.

He was dying of cancer, perfect opportunity for him to have taken the opportunity to show the world how amazing steroids can be to someone's heath that's what I would have done. I wouldn't try to attract a audience of other young kids and lie and say clean diet and hard work is all it took me.

 

[49ER]

Yes sir symmetry thank you. I don't care about perfect symmetry. I do care about leg day don't get me wrong I train legs and try to keep upper and lower body in symmetry but I don't care if I'm perfect all over symmetry having a thin waist line or this and that.

Let's see those wheels big man

 

[Fred87]

Guys in my gym who compete at regional and national levels still look nothing like the guy after 10+ years of juice, pro gymnasts (probably on some peds too anyways) look nothing like him after a whole life of training, I dont know in what planet or even universe a natty guy could be that damn hard, full and shredded whole year around after 3 years of lifting, as a teen, claiming he doesnt even count his macros, gaining about 80 pounds of muscles, deadlifting 585, training 7 days a week.
Explain to me how he could be natty Mike!
If hes not on stuff how the hell would he look if he starts using?