What is the proper does of cialis for daily use to help build muscle ?

So 5mgs twice a day for best results ? Take one of the dosages two hours before workout is most beneficial ?

Yep. Signs that it's too much for you would be flushing in the face or mild headaches (bp dropping too low) and possibly dizziness. I know of only one person so far that couldn't tolerate 10mg total, but of course we all react differently. 45min to 2hrs prior is a good rule of thumb for pwo imo. Arm boners are intense, you've been warned. :spin:
 
So if you take it 2 hours before workout, and say later your gonna be with your girl would you still be good to go with the cialis?
 
The main problem with Viagra and Cialis is eye degradation , I can attest to this as I only took Viagra for 1 summer (3 mo) about 8 years ago and my eyes were never the same after that , and I had 20/20 before . Night blindness too , never had that before either .....come to find out these were very common side effects and have been sued many times , but they are big pharma so they just pay the fines and keep selling the defective product . As far as Cialis I started getting lower back pains after 1 month , looked on the hand-out and there it was (in small lettering of course) "may cause lower back pains". So be careful guys , if you experience any eye probs or lower back pains stop use , its not worth your sight....~Bo
 
The main problem with Viagra and Cialis is eye degradation , I can attest to this as I only took Viagra for 1 summer (3 mo) about 8 years ago and my eyes were never the same after that , and I had 20/20 before . Night blindness too , never had that before either .....come to find out these were very common side effects and have been sued many times , but they are big pharma so they just pay the fines and keep selling the defective product . As far as Cialis I started getting lower back pains after 1 month , looked on the hand-out and there it was (in small lettering of course) "may cause lower back pains". So be careful guys , if you experience any eye probs or lower back pains stop use , its not worth your sight....~Bo
Thanks for the warning, but given that:

NBC said:
The FDA has 43 reports of NAION among the impotence drug users: 38 for Viagra, four for Cialis and one for Levitra, said spokeswoman Susan Cruzan.

Those are rare numbers, given that Viagra alone has been used by 23 million men worldwide since its approval in 1998, according to maker Pfizer Inc.
(43/23M)*100% = 0.00018695% risk, I'll take my chances.

This is NOT to downplay your experience by any means, although I would look into what may have caused your problem outside the drugs as it is believed that the underlying conditions that caused blindness in men taking the drugs for impotence are the very same that caused them to take the drugs in the first place.

Source
 
Viagra eye problems are very common and excepted in the medical community , my own doctor took me off because he recognized the side effect . These are not side effect free drugs by any means , just trying to point this out to guys that might not research what they take . Viagra DID cause my eye problems , although it might not in you or you ~Bo
 
Yep. Signs that it's too much for you would be flushing in the face or mild headaches (bp dropping too low) and possibly dizziness. I know of only one person so far that couldn't tolerate 10mg total, but of course we all react differently. 45min to 2hrs prior is a good rule of thumb for pwo imo. Arm boners are intense, you've been warned. :spin:
Thank you my brother !
 
Viagra eye problems are very common and excepted in the medical community , my own doctor took me off because he recognized the side effect . These are not side effect free drugs by any means , just trying to point this out to guys that might not research what they take . Viagra DID cause my eye problems , although it might not in you or you ~Bo

Like I said brother, please take no offense to my post as I wasn't trying to discount your experience by any means. I simply wanted to show that it is a small risk (comparatively) and didn't want there to be cause for alarm. I would hope folks research what they're taking before they put it in their bodies. I know I read up quite a bit before I decided to take cialis or even testosterone for that matter.

No disrespect intended at all whatsoever.
 
Like I said brother, please take no offense to my post as I wasn't trying to discount your experience by any means. I simply wanted to show that it is a small risk (comparatively) and didn't want there to be cause for alarm. I would hope folks research what they're taking before they put it in their bodies. I know I read up quite a bit before I decided to take cialis or even testosterone for that matter.

No problem bro - when a drug fks you over you never forget that drug ....such it is with me with Viagra and that poisonous antibiotic CIPRO .....that shit almost killed me !! I will say no more about Viagra because most guys wont have a problem with it . Myself , my vision actually changed within hours of taking Viagra , it was actually quite noticeable so I knew what the problem was .

I"m afraid alot of guys here are on so many different chemicals and hormones that when they have a side effect or adverse reaction they will have no idea which one to point at . Thats the problem with doing mass drugs.....
 
no but like most things less can definitely be more so i would try more like 4mg and see how i did. in my case the flushing actually subsided with regular use but again everyone's different.
 
No problem bro - when a drug fks you over you never forget that drug ....such it is with me with Viagra and that poisonous antibiotic CIPRO .....that shit almost killed me !! I will say no more about Viagra because most guys wont have a problem with it . Myself , my vision actually changed within hours of taking Viagra , it was actually quite noticeable so I knew what the problem was .

I"m afraid alot of guys here are on so many different chemicals and hormones that when they have a side effect or adverse reaction they will have no idea which one to point at . Thats the problem with doing mass drugs.....

Totally understand where you're coming from. Wow, you're the third person I know of that had a problem with Ciprofloxacin! Crazy that you noticed a difference in a matter of hours on Viagra. Was it that blue eyesight stuff originally, or did you just notice a vision loss altogether? Viagra's track record with sides is why I chose cialis to be honest - I didn't know that they both share some incidences of side effects (makes sense since they do a similar thing to the body) until I was getting ready to take it.

Good point on taking several drugs at once. I just hope that the average member here would follow their own advice and start a new drug one at a time like it's preached so many times with regards to cycles. Then again, I don't think we view pharmaceutical drugs in the same light as AAS. :o

Thank you for you insight again though. At least people can't say they weren't warned. :)
 
Hey Halfwit - yea it was the blue color thing , within an hour of taking V everything kinda of looked blueish or grayish , and all thru the night the night blindness thing . I havent had it since that time (quit Viagra) , started taking TRT.....

As far as Cipro , I barely made it out alive from this insidious drug , I have PTSD just thinking about it......use only as a life or death last measure .....~Bo
 
Hey Halfwit - yea it was the blue color thing , within an hour of taking V everything kinda of looked blueish or grayish , and all thru the night the night blindness thing . I havent had it since that time (quit Viagra) , started taking TRT.....

As far as Cipro , I barely made it out alive from this insidious drug , I have PTSD just thinking about it......use only as a life or death last measure .....~Bo
Oddly, I always kind of wanted to experience the blue vision side - but I'm glad that I never did after reading your post. Yes, my cousin had a severe reaction to cipro as well. Almost killed her too, but they called it an allergic reaction to the drug.
 
So I've been taking 5mg ED since Saturday, and Friday I did a dosage of 10mg. Anyways nothing really jumped started anything, though today I;ve been working so not in the mood to see if my shits working etc. Anyways I hear if you do daily dosages like 5mg ED it takes 5 days to kick into your system. Any truth to this? I'm hoping by tomorrow its kicked in, It'd be 4 dosages totaling 25mgs.
 
sounds like a good idea but im just worried either im going to have a raging boner from all the girls at my college gym and be looked at like a freak or im going to have a raging boner around 50 dudes and look like a fag
 
So I've been taking 5mg ED since Saturday, and Friday I did a dosage of 10mg. Anyways nothing really jumped started anything, though today I;ve been working so not in the mood to see if my shits working etc. Anyways I hear if you do daily dosages like 5mg ED it takes 5 days to kick into your system. Any truth to this? I'm hoping by tomorrow its kicked in, It'd be 4 dosages totaling 25mgs.
I saw a difference the day I started (Eli Lilly states 30 minutes for action). How old are you? I know I see a HUGE difference, but I'm also pushing 40. If you're a younger guy, you may not benefit as much as us old farts. I think Austinite mentioned this in the original thread, but I don't remember for sure.

sounds like a good idea but im just worried either im going to have a raging boner from all the girls at my college gym and be looked at like a freak or im going to have a raging boner around 50 dudes and look like a fag

Lol, you won't start springing wood all over the place. It just makes your boner harder and gives crazy pumps/increased vascularity in the gym.
 
Im almost 23, so ya young guy. Only reason I bought some cialis is because im in PCT and my libido crashed. Though my member has been getting early morning erections the past few days, and ill be having a go at my gal tonight so I will see. Like I said just took it because my libido crashed beginning of week 2 of PCT and was bad for a good week and half after that. Now it might be better will see, since PCT is almost over.
 
Cialis won't really do anything for libido. It's an ED drug not a libido booster. It should take effect the very first day but as Halfwit mentioned, if you're younger and don't have ED issues, it won't be a drastic difference.
 
Hey halfwit,

Just want to get this straight, you take 5mg's a couple of hours before you workout and another 5mg's after you workout. How long after your workout are you taking it?
 
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