bloods have shown e2 rises with ostarine, coupled with daa that 'can' aggrivate e2 to a minimal degree....its quite possible there can arise an issue here......the sarms affects on estrogen would lead to the idea they are suppressive at bodybuilding doses, thus controlling that, via a mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) course or adding a dht compound,would alleviate this
What Pre-workout are you using?
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bloods have shown e2 rises with ostarine, coupled with daa that 'can' aggrivate e2 to a minimal degree....its quite possible there can arise an issue here......the sarms affects on estrogen would lead to the idea they are suppressive at bodybuilding doses, thus controlling that, via a mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) course or adding a dht compound,would alleviate this
BigKevKris
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Ah.... I see....and I agree as well.....
the 'in between' cycles approach hes running should/will be somewhat suppressive
a natty/otc type job afterwards would be a good idea, example the daa would have been better served following the sarms
BigKevKris
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Agreed....i look to run something like...s4, formastanzol, and DAA...forma takes care of the estro....the S4 gives the strength and hardness with the DAA keeping the boys big.....EPIC
agreed, i liked s4 at 75mg, with con-cret was nice, hardening and pumps......sorry im a pp guy so sub the forma for hardV3, but same idea.....makes me put off cycle thoughts lol
bigherm2121
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Weight gains may or maynot be from the bloat from the higher e? So someone with a higher bf% would be more subjected to such issues. Interesting hmm.
it wouldnt be like pinning, but its there.............often the guys with higher bf% have e2 issues, goes hand in hand in most cases
packers6211
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I just started using Universal Pumps and wow that stuff sets a fire in you. No sides other then extreme energy.
BigKevKris
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I hear ya.....great stack either way.....So many NATTY stacks....so hard to find a reason to cycle...well...not hard to find..but so EASY to find a cycle that you can do NATTY
SupplementJunkie
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N2BM N2Amp. Love this stuff and it is my new preworkout supplement of choice. Awesome pumps, vascualrity, energy and focus. I am now a big fan and am happy I gave this a try. Prior I have been using N2KTS for a while and really enjoyed that as well. But for me, the N2Amp is just a little better. Down the road I am going to stack them both before a big workout..
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BigKevKris
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How long does it take for the n2AMP to "kick" in...the reason I love powders is because of the quick kick.
MuscleAddiction
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I already do...1 scoop N2KTS and 6 caps N2Amp...and I get in the gym at 4:30-5 a.m. and kill it! Prior to stumbling upon NTBM and REAL supplements, I was using everything from Mesomorph, Anadraulic State GT, Jack3d, 1MRP, you name it I have tried it. When Nate told me to try this exact combo, I was floored at the smooth raging energy I was experiencing, lifts felt lighter, and at that time of the morning it's already challenging! On the days I train a little later in the day, not only does this give me the best training sessions lately, but nice energy afterward to still get my honey do list done, for us married guys. Give it a shot bro, if you already haven't, you will be blown away!
I just took advantage of the givethanks25 deal and stocked up on bottles of both...don't want to run out ya know! Great time to stock it up brothers!
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Never tried the n2amp yet. I use ntkts and pre workout chews. That's prob gonna be my gift from santa
bigherm2121
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No shotgun sucks. Get some ntkts and you'll see how terrible no shotgun is.
BigKevKris
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Use code: BigKev15 for %15 off man....you wont regret the switch
bigherm2121
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Trust me you won't be looking for new stuff after you try this. Grape flavor is bomb.
MuscleAddiction
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Hell yeah it is! I like the Green Apple the best...when mixed, it looks like you are drinking something from Alien's or something...I will add 1/2 scoop of DAA for some test boosting effects first thing in the morning, as well as my other favorite supplements, and training is phenominal! I have sitting in my supplement cabinet right now:
1 MR (BPI)
Animal Rage (Universal Nutrition)
Ezekiel (Reaction Nutrition)
Mesomorph (APS)
Anadraulic State GT (LG Sciences)
Jack3D (USP Labs)
...and once I tried my new stack of N2KTS and N2 Amp, that is all the other pre-workouts are doing...just sitting in my cabinet!
Trust me my Iron Brothers, I have tried them all...and no crash on my stack! In fact, it gives me a great start to my work day even after training hard! No coffee needed!!
Gotta give it a shot bro's!!! With the 15% off, you would be ignorant not too...no disrespect intended!
