What should i do now??? REALLY ANNOYED

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Starkraven

EXTREME FASCIST
im on 500mg tren e and feeling quite shitty now that i dropped the test because of the bloat. and funny thing is, some of it went away but i upped the tren to 500 from 375 and i can now see more bloat. the more gear the more bloat

NO MATTER WHAT GEAR, YOU WILL STILL HOLD WATER, THATS HOW THEY WORK.

Since i feel this way, i was thinking of lowering the TREN to 250mg and introducing test e again at 125-250mg per week BUT ONLY IF I GET BRAND NAME NOLVA/PROV BECAUSE MY ADEX DIDNT SEEM TO DO MUCH ON ME. BUT I KNOW NOLVA/PROV KEEPS ME DRY/HARD BECAUSE I USED IT BEFORE.

Or i can come off and just use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and forget all this stupid bullshit and do it naturally because im real annoyed. my diet is insanely hardcore, i do 45 min cardio 6 days a week, and train mon-fri. i look muscular a little but i can get this shit naturaly. i aint impressed with this tren shit, YOU GUYS ARE ALL TRIPPING ABOUT HOW YOU LOVE IT AND ALL. but i aint droppin much fat at all anymore, it stopped it seems. or the bloat is hiding it all. but i aint droppin NO 1% BF PER WEEK...how the fuck can you do that anyway? i'll be DAMNED if i can find out what diet/training/cardio can do that for me. REALLY.

so whats it going to be? 250 test/250 tren or 250 test? what are these really going to do for me that i cant do without it? if i still bloat on prov/nolva, im done with gear, i was always the fat kid and im not going to let the bloat fuck me over and piss me off. SORRY.

any input appreciated!
 
Tren DOES NOT cause bloat.....it just doesn't. Either your diet os causing the bloat or you have some bunk gear that is not what it's supposed to be. Also, how long ago have you dropped the test?
 
Deadlift said:
Tren DOES NOT cause bloat.....it just doesn't. Either your diet os causing the bloat or you have some bunk gear that is not what it's supposed to be. Also, how long ago have you dropped the test?
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my tren is real. its zencall. thats why i look so pumped and full and muscular.
what i mean is, i dont look like a balloon but you will always have some slight water retention in your face.

and my diet, ohhhhhhhh you dont even want to see my diet bro.
im in the middle of week 7, i took test like this:

week 1: 1000mg
week 2: 500mg
week 3: 500mg
week 4: none
week 5: 125mg
week 6: none
week 7: none

its been 17 days since i took 125mg.
but it doesnt matter, because i want to get back on it, i just dont feel right on tren alone, the body is made of test, not tren, but i will need to get some nolv/prov otherwise forget it. im dieting and just dont look "LEANER" each and every day after cardio you know? the muscle and strength while being on 1628 calories is GREAT trust me, but i want more fat loss. and im doing cardio, WTF? tren is pretty strong i can tell but its not like its ripping the fat off me like i hear all the time. and my diet is insanely hardcore. go to the "effective tren E dose" thread, you'll see it.
 
Some people react differently to hormones. I get shredded on Tren, bloated on Anadrol, and hold water only in my face and neck on test enan. I have heard from other Bros that Tren makes them bloat...so you are not alone, just one of the few. I had a training partner that would blow up like a balloon with ANY compound! He could just think about doing Winstrol (winny) and bloat. He looked like the Pillsbury Dough Boy...regardless of compound, cardio, or diet. Gear just did NOT sit well with him. That may be your case Bro. Bummer for you, so good luck!
 
im gettin the results but im not dry looking and my fat loss is slow. those are my two problems. its seems to have built muscle which is damn cool but id like to get shredded now. i eat only 1628 cals, its nice to know i can build muscle on cals that low but what do i have to do to burn 1% bf per week?
 
bro.. its gotta be your diet ! Test dont bloat you , you will hold a little water but not bloat, bloat is 99% from your diet! reduce your sodium intake ! and eat lean.
 
i eat like a pre-contest BB. 1628 cals or so i weigh 150 at 5'6"with like 16% BF. im not huge because i dont want to be. just want to be lean around 10%
i was told my cals might be too high! i was astonished but still, i have a different body, maybe 1400 calories would get me lean because i seem to be putting on muscle with all this cardio too. 6 days a week 45 min. so i might need to lower calories further.

meal #1 (1 hour after 45 min cardio)
8 egg whites
2 whole eggs
1/2 cup oats (no splenda, sweeteners, sugary bullshit, just old fashioned oats)
1 TBSP Udo's choice oil blend

meal #2
can of tuna, low sodium or chicken breast about 6 oz
2/3 cup oats
1 cup greens, either raw brocolli or rommaine lettuce

TRAIN (mon-fri) one bodypart a day)

meal #3 POST-WORKOUT
10 egg whites
1 cup oats

meal #4
tuna or chicken breast
1 TBSP udo's choice

meal #5
chicken breast
1 cup greens

meal #6
8-10 egg whites

i train mon-fri and do cardio 6 days a week, i drop carbs to 50g weekends and do a double carb up every 10-14 days thats what i was told to do by a hardcore bodybuilder and i trust his info. still, i might need to lower cals a bit. he didnt take in much fat. i take in 2 tbsp udo;'s choice plus 2 yolks each morning. i just feel that i need to take in that fat to lose fat..i dont believe in a diet without a good amount of EFA's. i believe you need to take in fat to lose fat.
 
DUDE STOP POSTING AT EVERY DAMN BOARD - You posted at professionalmuscle and got great advice!!! You decided to whine about being fat and how nothing goes your way. Thats crap - I gurantee you if your eating clean like you say you are and doing 45 min of cardio and using 500 mg of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) / weak there is no reason you shouldn't be. So my guess - You don't actually follow the diet everyday.
 
I dont see how tren would bloat you, unless you got something thats not really tren I dont see why this would happen. Maybe your just very sensitive to test and it hasnt cleared your system yet
 
never used tren e so i can't comment on the bloat but tren acetate never bloated me, heated me up like a blast furnace though, people always ask me if i'm getting ready for a show while on tren........everyone's different though that's why there's different hormones available to try
 
i dont think i need to increase my cals, i think i need to lower them as they might have been too high even at 1650 cals i guess!! but maybe i do need to increase cals but why 3 weeks? im afraid of doing that to be honest, id rather do like 1 higher carb day or a cheat just to get my metabolism going again?

im going to lower tren to 250 a week, i weigh only 155 i dont think i need 500mg. and test i will add in 250mg and get proviron and nolvadex and a good eca stack, which kind do you guys like that make you appear harder from losing water weight on it? i know some have green tea and all in them, i might be able to get some old hydroxycut.
 
Dude if you are running tren to burn fat you are looking at the wrong drug. It might make small differences in some people, I believe it did for me, but it isn't DNP. Somehow you are going in the wrong direction here.
 
so what is your recommendation? just diet with 250mg test per week with nolva/proviron? thats about all the gear i would need to hold my muscle and actually feel good. i was thinking that with just 250mg tren per week but id like to hear more responses. aside from gear which isnt as important as diet/training/cardio, well i havent cheated at all. i think i did only twice the first two weeks only, but the last 5 weeks, i stayed at around 130 carbs each day and only one day i bumped it to like 217g, but i think i either need a cheat or better yet a carb load to restore things and jump start my metabolism? also lately ive been tired. when i was on test, i was cool but i also changed up my training and upped the tren which i heard made a friend of mine real tired. i have no sides except for some bloating in my face which is bothering me and mental issues which i know is from tren without test.
 
I'm on a hard cutter now and am eating around what you are......I weigh 50lbs more and am at 9% BF......so even more then a 50lb diff. in lean bodyweight. Eat less man.....your a small guy.....like 135lbs around if you were to have abs level bodyfat. Also, get pissed all you want but at that small of a size and you've already been running juice you definitly don't have everything in order
 
Deadlift said:
I'm on a hard cutter now and am eating around what you are......I weigh 50lbs more and am at 9% BF......so even more then a 50lb diff. in lean bodyweight. Eat less man.....your a small guy.....like 135lbs around if you were to have abs level bodyfat. Also, get pissed all you want but at that small of a size and you've already been running juice you definitly don't have everything in order
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hey bro i was thinking about just using 250mg test per week til i lean out. should i just come off then with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and nolva? i dont care about the gear anymore really. i know on test i will feel alot better but if i can get to 9% without test or any gear, believe me i'll give it up tonight.
 
Stop the juice, learn how to train and diet properly. There's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to attain 10% bodyfat at a weight of only 150lbs naturally.
 
i am. im coming off. i need to get brand name nolva and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in a week from now (im using tren enth) i gave it a long thought about it today and decided that i just dont need the gear. it just makes things more complicated.
 
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