What to take with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) that WONT mess with libido but help with size?

[kilsong]

What to take with TRT that WONT mess with libido but help with size?

Last week I began my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) program with a clinic here in Nevada.
Here's the thread:steroidology.com/forum/testosterone-replacement-therapy/652036-can-you-interpret-these-lab-results-me.html

My question is what drug can I take in conjunction with my weekly 150 mg Test Cyp that could help with size, but not destroy my erections?

I know Deca is out of the question, but is there anything else?
Thanks in advance.

 

[halfwit]

I don't understand your question. Your other thread was regarding your lab results and where to go from there. Are you asking about what cycles of AAS you can run now? Erectile dysfunction can be caused by many things, both psychological and physical.

 

[kilsong]

Well...
Like I said, this is for future use.
The erectile dysfunction hopefully will be cured with the TRT.
I was thinking I could supplement it --just for the muscle gain--with something else.
Sorry for the confusion.

 

[halfwit]

Well...
Like I said, this is for future use.
The erectile dysfunction hopefully will be cured with the TRT.
I was thinking I could supplement it --just for the muscle gain--with something else.
Sorry for the confusion.

Okay, so you're looking into "blasting" which is the addition of other AAS on top of your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). First things first, I strongly advise you stick with your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for at least another six months to a year to get everything dialed in. Once you know how your body fully responds to exogenous testosterone with not only the aromatization into estrogen, but hematocrit and platelet counts - then you can start to think about going further.

Once you have everything good to go with your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), then I would create a thread in the AAS section and seek opinions there. As this is a sponsored forum by a reputable testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) company, discussing AAS cycles is frowned upon in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section as it can shed a negative light on their business. Also, please be sure to have a consistent training program and diet set up first. Jumping headfirst into supraphysiological levels of androgens without a solid foundation first is a sure-fire recipe for disaster as you won't have the ligament/tendon strength to support a rapid gain of muscle.

My .02c

 

[totalburnout]

Well...
Like I said, this is for future use.
The erectile dysfunction hopefully will be cured with the TRT.
I was thinking I could supplement it --just for the muscle gain--with something else.
Sorry for the confusion.

Here's the best advice you're going to receive in the thread (in my humble opinion)

Listen, knock the shit off. You're already receiving medical help for a problem that likely developed because you had poor nutrition and physical fitness. Be happy with the treatment you're receiving and seek better training regimens and nutritional regimens - everything will be in balance.

TRT is for males with legitimate, natural hormone imbalances - not for those looking for short cuts to beat poor training, poor nutrition and/or a lack of consistent dedication.

 

[kilsong]

Alllll righty then....

 

[halfwit]

Here's the best advice you're going to receive in the thread (in my humble opinion)

Listen, knock the shit off. You're already receiving medical help for a problem that likely developed because you had poor nutrition and physical fitness. Be happy with the treatment you're receiving and seek better training regimens and nutritional regimens - everything will be in balance.

TRT is for males with legitimate, natural hormone imbalances - not for those looking for short cuts to beat poor training, poor nutrition and/or a lack of consistent dedication.

Easy partner. I don't think kilsong came here looking for a short cut but is doing what many of us on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) do and is looking for a silver lining so to speak. Hypogonadism can be caused by a bazillion different things, so I find it insensitive to automatically blame someone for something that very well may not be their doing. My balls stopped working due to a constant intake of opiates for a series of injuries, does this mean I caused it to myself even though this side effect is just a footnote on an obscure warning? I agree that training and nutrition should come first, but I also don't find it to be an issue if someone wants to go beyond what they've been handed in life.

You seem a bit on the angry side my friend. Maybe you should take a look at your E2 levels, no disrespect intended.

 

[kilsong]

Thank you so much for posting what I was feeling.
You nailed it right on the head.
I am looking for that silver lining. Not looking to be the next Jay Cutler. I just wanna make the most of what I have.
Luckily {or unluckily} I turned out to be a candidate for TRT.
I'm accepting that help and all it entails.
However, once I get the dosage and things nailed down, I would like to take it a step further.
Of course the training and diet come first.

Also....in regards to the opiate intake...
I kinda know how that feels.
I watched them almost destroy my cousin.
He was way worse than you though. He lost everything.
Good that you got a hold of it. God bless.

Thanks again halfwit.

 

[halfwit]

Thank you so much for posting what I was feeling.
You nailed it right on the head.
I am looking for that silver lining. Not looking to be the next Jay Cutler. I just wanna make the most of what I have.
Luckily {or unluckily} I turned out to be a candidate for TRT.
I'm accepting that help and all it entails.
However, once I get the dosage and things nailed down, I would like to take it a step further.
Of course the training and diet come first.

Also....in regards to the opiate intake...
I kinda know how that feels.
I watched them almost destroy my cousin.
He was way worse than you though. He lost everything.
Good that you got a hold of it. God bless.

Thanks again halfwit.

My pleasure man. Be sure to check back in once you're all dialed in and have your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) down to a science. Then we can discuss what to do next.

 

[totalburnout]

See the whole 'and going a little bit farther' thing is what slows the progression of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) from being accepted into the mainstream. It's just too easy for people to take advantage of and abuse. It's just said to see when so many of us legitimately need it and have always done the right things.

 

[kilsong]

It's just said to see when so many of us legitimately need it and have always done the right things.

I am part of the group that legitimately needs it. So now what?
Just because I choose to possibly take it one step further does not remove the underlying issue I legitimately have.

I can't change the way mainstream America views testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), nor am I trying to.
I had a problem...I went to a doctor...they're fixing it.

 

[1693]

I know deca is out of the question, but is there anything else?

Why is deca out of the question? I know of several guys that use deca with their TRT.

 

[Megatron28]

Why is deca out of the question? I know of several guys that use deca with their TRT.

Most docs won't prescribe it for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). It doesn't increase testosterone afterall.

 

[1693]

Their docs prescribe it because it makes their joints feel better like they are lubricated.

 

[halfwit]

See the whole 'and going a little bit farther' thing is what slows the progression of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) from being accepted into the mainstream. It's just too easy for people to take advantage of and abuse. It's just said to see when so many of us legitimately need it and have always done the right things.

Wrong. It's the fact that there was a gigantic smear campaign against all forms of anabolic-androgenic steroids that have made testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) a very long and slow process due to corporate greed. Sports generate MILLIONS of dollars, and everyone wants to think they can be Joe Athlete just by eating their Wheaties, drinking their Gatorade, and wearing their Nikes. It shouldn't be surprising that this money being in jeopardy easily found it's way into lobbyists. It has nothing to do with drug abuse or the ill effects of AAS at all - just the almighty dollar. If you don't believe me, do some research on the history of AAS and how the medical community was coerced into making statements as ludicrous as how AAS does absolutely nothing for the human body.

People doing cycles typically don't/aren't able to utilize the doses of testosterone to any great extent as the quantities required for supraphysiological levels far exceed a scripted dose unless one is getting supplied by an illegitimate company/service. I can see being aggressive with a kid that would come in here thinking that he can score free steroids by "faking" low testosterone, but considering a real cycle of test is 2-6x higher than what a script is written for, it just isn't feasible in the long term. I don't even want to get into how much more we pay for pharmaceutical brand hormones as that's a huge racket.

I think your heart is in the right place, but you need to realize that many of us feel penalized for something we never did wrong and shouldn't be viewed as such. I don't know a single healthy guy that wishes he was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), being married to the needle and vial isn't something I would view as bliss - and nor do they. Sadly I'm willing to bet we see recreational use of cannabis legalized long before AAS loses its stigma for shrinking penises and causing 'roid rage. (Nothing against cannabis. )

My .02c

 

[kilsong]

Their docs prescribe it because it makes their joints feel better like they are lubricated.

That along with the muscle gains is a reason I would try it. However 'Deca-dick' is a deal breaker for me.

.. being married to the needle and vial isn't something I would view as bliss -

Same here. If I had my way, I'd be just as normal as I was in my 20s. Those days are gone and without testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), it was looking like they were gone for good.
Hell...it's 2013..why shouldn't those that need it-get it?
Modern science has afforded us this luxury, and I'm going to ride it til the end.
Which is why once I get it dialed in correctly, I wouldn't mind taking even one step further.
Why not?