What to use with Test Enanthate?

[Muay Thai]

I can't decide what to combine Test E with for a good bulking cycle which will be my 2nd cycle btw. I already got Test E at home. I have very easy access to Primobolan, Sustanon and Anadrol because I can get from a chemist and not be paranoid about the product being fake etc. I can probably find Deca, Winstrol (winny) and some other stuff if I try. I'm open to all suggestions.

At first I thought Test E + Primo, moderately effective and less sides. Now I'm thinking just Test E like my first cycle but in higher dose. So what do you guys think? Should I do test e only or combine it with something for better effect, and with what?

 

[FerrariF50]

another test only cycle is completely normal

if you're still gaining then no need to raise the dose either

deca or anadrol would be my choice if adding another compound though

 

[Muay Thai]

When I first read about it in Anabolics 2006, I though Anadrol was the $#!T since I can easily buy from the chemist but reading more about it put me off a little. Apparently massive gains but mostly water and being an oral it's harder on the liver etc. Deca is quite popular but how about Deca dick?

 

[Dlove]

Definitely stick with test only I agree with Ferrariboy on this one. You can pretty much always grow on test only cycles maybe not as much but it's easier on your health and why up it if you can still gain.

 

[Muay Thai]

Btw my first cycle was a 12 week Test E cycle (375mg per week iow 250 every 5 days). This time I'm regardless of adding an extra Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) or not I will up the dose to 500mg per week. Some even recommended 750 a week Test E only cycle.

 

[FerrariF50]

you could eat ice cream and grow off of anadrol

since oxymetholone (anadrol) is used for various medical reasons there's studies done showing lean body mass gained

it does promote lots of water retention which is lost post cycle and maybe this is why it's gotten a bad rep
but i've never considered water weight as actual gains

if anything the strength gains alone make anadrol a worthwhile addition as a kick start

 

[josh1095]

access to a chemist? All i gotta say is ur one lucky SOB!!!!

 

[baldie99]

about your concerns with deca-dick.....if you're taking test with it, it counter-acts the deca dick.....did a few deca and test cyp. cycles and was horney as fuck.
you get deca-dick because it shuts down your natural test production while on it...so throw test in and you're good to go

 

[Dlove]

you could eat ice cream and grow off of anadrol

since oxymetholone (anadrol) is used for various medical reasons there's studies done showing lean body mass gained

it does promote lots of water retention which is lost post cycle and maybe this is why it's gotyou ten a bad rep
but i've never considered water weight as actual gains

if anything the strength gains alone make anadrol a worthwhile addition as a kick start

ive never felt anything as powerful as anadrol. it was by far my favorite. the strength gains are amazing. it also gave me that sense of well being everyone talks about with d-bol. i felt like i was on excatasy 24/7 also whats great about it is you can watch your self literally swell up after three sets in the gym it's pretty wild. something to defintitely try. if it just wasn't so harsh on the liver. you know i wonder with dosages split 25mg in morning and 25mg at night just how bad it is for your liver. i mean i know people that drink everynight hard liquor i wonder if the drol is worse for people?

 

[FerrariF50]

ive never felt anything as powerful as anadrol. it was by far my favorite. the strength gains are amazing. it also gave me that sense of well being everyone talks about with d-bol. i felt like i was on excatasy 24/7 also whats great about it is you can watch your self literally swell up after three sets in the gym it's pretty wild. something to defintitely try. if it just wasn't so harsh on the liver. you know i wonder with dosages split 25mg in morning and 25mg at night just how bad it is for your liver. i mean i know people that drink everynight hard liquor i wonder if the drol is worse for people?

my blood pressure was constantly high when on anadrol
i had liver values checked while on anadrol at 150mg ed and they were moderately elevated

50mg ed won't cause problems if used for a respected time imo

when you can't walk up stairs or tie your shoes without getting winded you know it's time to stop

 

[estray]

Your gonna find it gets significantly harder to add muscle every cycle from now. First one was easy, any fuck up can gain a few lbs of muscle on the first cycle even if they have no idea how to eat or train. This is why you often see 160lb dudes running huge stacks, because theyve run a couple cycles and cant gain anymore so they think more gear is the solution when the answer really lies in thier diet and training.

You started out low first time so i see no problem going up to 500mg a week. Id run that for 12 weeks. If your training and diet is good you should be able to knock out a couple 500mg week cycles before you need to bump up again.

 

[FerrariF50]

if your training and diet is good you should be able to knock out a couple 500mg week cycles before you need to bump up again.

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[jonk430]

Deca always works well with Test E.

 

[Muay Thai]

Arghh, all the good feedback on Anadrol, if only it wasn't an oral. Maybe I should look into a pyramid cycle where I do Test E from week 1-12 and incorporate drol or deca from week 3-10 or something like that.

 

[Muay Thai]

Your gonna find it gets significantly harder to add muscle every cycle from now. First one was easy, any fuck up can gain a few lbs of muscle on the first cycle even if they have no idea how to eat or train. This is why you often see 160lb dudes running huge stacks, because theyve run a couple cycles and cant gain anymore so they think more gear is the solution when the answer really lies in thier diet and training.

You started out low first time so i see no problem going up to 500mg a week. Id run that for 12 weeks. If your training and diet is good you should be able to knock out a couple 500mg week cycles before you need to bump up again.

Yeah I got good gains on a 375mg only Test E cycle, obviously being a first cycle had a lot to do with it. I was tempted to up the dose during that cycle but I stuck to my initial plan. Maybe I should stick with 500mg pw and see how I go but you know how it is, there is always a temptation.

I think this is what's important: Now let's say I ran a cycle of Test E + Deca or Drol etc. does that mean I have to go higher on my third cycle? And let's say I only ran Test E at 500 or 750mg pw, does that save me from an even heavier third cycle and can run a mild Test e + something on my third cycle instead of running huge stacks like those 160lb dudes you see?

 

[Stangostrone]

3-400mg deca for 10 weeks is a vary nice addition to a test-2 cycle and will bring more solid gains.

 

[Muay Thai]

I crossed Primo out of the list. I'll either do a Test E only cycle (12 weeks 500 or 750mg per week) or I'll do the cycle below:

Week 1-4 Drol
Week 1-12 Test E
Week 1-12 Deca

 

[TheMilkMan]

I crossed Primo out of the list. I'll either do a Test E only cycle (12 weeks 500 or 750mg per week) or I'll do the cycle below:

Week 1-4 Drol
Week 1-12 Test E
Week 1-12 Deca

I wouldn't add a third compound into the mix... it doesn't sound like a good idea to me, not to mention you would probably see some insane water retention

I would recommend either of these as a second cycle, with my preference being the first:

1. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks with a Test Prop kick start at 100mg EOD for 5 weeks

2. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks with a 5 week 50mg/day Anadrol kick start

3. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks along with 300-400mg/wk Deca for 11 weeks

 

[Muay Thai]

I wouldn't add a third compound into the mix... it doesn't sound like a good idea to me, not to mention you would probably see some insane water retention

I would recommend either of these as a second cycle, with my preference being the first:

1. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks with a Test Prop kick start at 100mg EOD for 5 weeks

2. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks with a 5 week 50mg/day Anadrol kick start

3. 500mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks along with 300-400mg/wk Deca for 11 weeks

Thanks for the advice. My reasoning was both Deca and Test E are long esters so by the time they started showing effects, I'd be finished with Drol as kickstarter. But #2 sounds cool, good old Test E cycle.

My only concern is this is my 2nd cycle so if Test E by itself is not as effective like it was in my first cycle then I have to do changes halfway through the cycle, try sourcing other stuff etc.

 

[j_thom]

test e deca eq stack

I am currently on

300 test e per week 1-15
300 deca per week 1-12
400 eq week 1-12

I’ve read others who have tied this cycleso thought I would give it a try. Should I up the test to 400 or 500 per week? I’m on week 5 now so just beginning to feel it kicking in.

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