whats the average a vial is short for you?
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Damn that sucks. I usually put all my vials beside each other on a new order and eyeball them. Never actually counted each time I pulled a cc. Just about to receive my next so I should check to see exactly what's in one.
spidartanks
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I dont look at it like that... Im running .80 ed
I got 10.75 shots out of it.
My calculations tell me that is 8.6ml/10ml
I just assume perhaps im taking out a little more than .80
Also a little left at the end of bottle. Some squakes out the rubber stopper.
Lots of places for error i think?
On top of perhaps getting 9.6ml not 10...i think its always approx?
I got 10.75 shots out of it.
My calculations tell me that is 8.6ml/10ml
I just assume perhaps im taking out a little more than .80
Also a little left at the end of bottle. Some squakes out the rubber stopper.
Lots of places for error i think?
On top of perhaps getting 9.6ml not 10...i think its always approx?
lock-n-load
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On my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Pharmacy test It's ALWAYS spot on ( 4 years) ....When I blast from any UGL its ALWAYS short.........Typically bout 1ml !
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ive been 1cc short in my test e bottle, and about 1-2cc short in my tren ace bottle
How funny. Mine that was short 2cc's was my Tren-E vial. Isnt that sweet when its an expensive vial lol
Iron Giant
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Yeah about .5-1cc, more on the 1cc side usually.
I think alot of bros get confused how to MEASURE!!!!!!! LOL, I hear alot of guys talk about underfilled vials and most of you are probably correct BUT I cannot tell you how many times I have had people tell me where they pull to on the STOPPER part of the syringe, and line it up with the HASH mark on the syringe you are aiming for by pulling the POINT of the stopper (You know that little TIP on the stopper part?) that tip or POINT is what ALOT of bros "THINK" is where you pull the syringe to line up with the hash you desire!!! But this is INCORRECT!!!!!! That is OVER a cc!!!! Meaning you will MOST definately be SHORT in the end!!!
SECOND!!! Yes, going over by even just a LITTLE over the course of 10-15 pins will make the difference in 1-2 cc!!!!! The point of the stopper or that little TIP of the BLACK stopper is NOT where you measure to!!! Follow that POINT down until it comes to the actual BASE CIRCLE of the black stopper and this is the measuring line you line up with your hash mark!!!
Secondly, take a Terumo syringe 10ml and then an excel 10ml and suck up to 10ml in the terumo then squirt it out and suck it up with the Excel.............. Hmmmmmmmm strange that there is a .5 cc difference JUST in the difference between TWO notorious brands!!!! Now go to your local CO OP where alot of UNDEREDUCATED bros attempt to obtain their syringes (Which is HORRIBLE animal grade and sucks) now suck up that 10ml in that SHITTY cheap animal syringe......... LOL, 1.7 cc difference!!!!
So honestly!!! There is not alot of validity to someone just simply saying their shit is underfilled!!!
In the end there is always those labs that as stated ACTUALLY intentionally underfill their vials!!! But alot of times it is user error!!!
Lastly, I have never out of 3 different pharm grade brands I have used to include Sandoz and LOL, I would NEVER trade my UGL for that UNDERDOSED yet slightly overfilled HIGHLY EXPENSIVE without insurance that will cover it which mine doesn't!!!!! To damn EXPENSIVE for that SUPPOSED 2 cc extra!!!!! DOUBLE the cost of what I pay for my shit and contrary to your situation my vials when measured in whole always come out to over 10cc with my regular terumo syringes!!!
SECOND!!! Yes, going over by even just a LITTLE over the course of 10-15 pins will make the difference in 1-2 cc!!!!! The point of the stopper or that little TIP of the BLACK stopper is NOT where you measure to!!! Follow that POINT down until it comes to the actual BASE CIRCLE of the black stopper and this is the measuring line you line up with your hash mark!!!
Secondly, take a Terumo syringe 10ml and then an excel 10ml and suck up to 10ml in the terumo then squirt it out and suck it up with the Excel.............. Hmmmmmmmm strange that there is a .5 cc difference JUST in the difference between TWO notorious brands!!!! Now go to your local CO OP where alot of UNDEREDUCATED bros attempt to obtain their syringes (Which is HORRIBLE animal grade and sucks) now suck up that 10ml in that SHITTY cheap animal syringe......... LOL, 1.7 cc difference!!!!
So honestly!!! There is not alot of validity to someone just simply saying their shit is underfilled!!!
In the end there is always those labs that as stated ACTUALLY intentionally underfill their vials!!! But alot of times it is user error!!!
Lastly, I have never out of 3 different pharm grade brands I have used to include Sandoz and LOL, I would NEVER trade my UGL for that UNDERDOSED yet slightly overfilled HIGHLY EXPENSIVE without insurance that will cover it which mine doesn't!!!!! To damn EXPENSIVE for that SUPPOSED 2 cc extra!!!!! DOUBLE the cost of what I pay for my shit and contrary to your situation my vials when measured in whole always come out to over 10cc with my regular terumo syringes!!!
I tell ya pinn this isn't my first rodeo. I got in this game many years ago(over 13 years ago)
I've never had a vial short 2cc's til now. I know there is room for error.
That's why I expect .5-1cc but not 2
Im gonna be watching this next bottle of Tren closely
also just want to add Im using products on my cycle all from same label and this is the first bottle that I have seen this with.
I've never had a vial short 2cc's til now. I know there is room for error.
That's why I expect .5-1cc but not 2
Im gonna be watching this next bottle of Tren closely
also just want to add Im using products on my cycle all from same label and this is the first bottle that I have seen this with.
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The only label Im using right now is Pinnacle. I bought a few grand of goodies from them trying them out so I'll be using them for a while lol.
The only vial so far that had a big issue was my Tren-E
The rest have been pretty normal. To be honest though I didnt pay close attention, but Im pretty sure the rest have been ok.
The only reason I caught this was I finished the bottle and then I started thinking wait I just started this on xx date and ive only used xx per week. hopefully was just a werid thing and not a norm for this batch of Tren.
Iron Giant
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I'm guilty of using the co-op syringes. They give you 3ml (18-27 gauge) and insulin here. Getting 200 barrels, 500 tips, 1000 alcohol swaps, 100 insulin syringes and a fuck ton of bandaids and cotton, for free is kinda neat...I do draw properly however, I don't know why anyone would measure to the point on the syringe stopper :/
juced_porkchop
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you ALWAYS lose some from pinning 0.5-1ml is to be expected.
eg; if you plan to use 2ml ew for 10 weeks you DONT need 20ml you need more like 22ml.
but 2ml short seems a bit much.
i always expect these things to come up a bit short so I ordered extra.
I should be good to go
Slickspurs
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I had the same problem.
