Why am I so high all of a sudden?

[Nitszo]

Got my new Blood Test In.
Last 2 Tests was 173.0 Free Test & 250.0 Free Test (low as fk)

Now I got my blood done and its sitting at.
Testosterone 16.8nmol/L
Free Test 344.9 pmo/L
Estrogen 103 pmol/L

Why all of a sudden a raise you think?

They did use a different company to test the blood this time.

I don't want to sound like an idiot, but I honestly think my doctor has fked me over.
Usually I get my results sent to my house, but this time I didn't which got me wondering.
Then when i got my tests back they were sky high compared to the usual and i have been feeling much worse then I ever have before, infact my testis are smaller then they ever have been in the passed.
We have had an argument in the passed about Anabolic Steroids because he knows that I go to the gym heaps and he has asked me if I ever used them and tried to tell me a story about this patient of his that got a bad back from using steroids.
he is saying all these things to be like growth hormone will make your hands massive and I'm sitting there thinking this guy is f***ed.
I need to find a sports doctor, dammit.. I wish chip could use a magic wand on me.

 

[MoparMuscle]

What was total t before you only posted free t from before. Post the ranges on the lab sheet also.

 

[cjw2021]

ya without reference ranges no one knows what we are looking at here. And Chip's docs do treat people, so if you have a deficiency that is an option. I don't know why people expect normal GP's to treat them with testosterone and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and possibly Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) when they are all idiots.

 

[Nitszo]

There is not a single thing Chip can do for me as I'm not Located in US.
Also, ignore my shit cycles.. gear is hard for me to get.
I have recently got my hands on Test/Deca which i will be running after I sit for TRT.

First Test: (Before cycle, first blood test ever)
Testosterone 7.4 nmol/L
SHBG 19 nmol/L
FAI 39
Free Testosterone 173.0 pmol/L

2nd Test: (Running EQ,Primo,Winstrol) This is where I want to be again.
Testosterone 22.1 nmol/L
SHBG 11 nmol/L
Free Testosterone 644 pmol/L
FAI 200.9

3rd Test: Dianabol at 80mg everyday (I didn't take it before I went for a test)
Testosterone 8.0 nmol/L
SHBG 8 nmol/L
FAI 100
Free Testosterone 246.4 pmol/L

4th Test: 6weeks after Dianabol, and 3weeks after PCT Nolva/Clomid
Testosterone 16.8 nmol/L
SHGB 34 nmol/L
FAI 49
Free Testosterone 344.9 pmol/L

344.9 Still feels very out of whack, When I was 600 I felt great.
Is it possible the reason its high right now is because Clomid/Nolvadex have stimulated me to produce more test? would it remain this high or will it decline again?
I am getting another blood test in 2weeks, as I'm sitting for TRT.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

brother,this testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is a mysterious thing to figure out,i wish you the best of luck brother,cause i know its messing you up

 

[Nitszo]

brother,this testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is a mysterious thing to figure out,i wish you the best of luck brother,cause i know its messing you up

Yeah bro thank you very much.
Its messing me up mentally too bro, I'm really depressed about it.
I'm running stupid ass cycles to try and gain and ill probably end up worse then ever from it..
Seeing an Endo shortly, i really want a way to just shut down my HPTA for a day or two and come up as low on the tests so i can get TRT.. any ideas lol?

 

[cjw2021]

344 total test is low. It appears you are already shut down. Maybe your doc will prescribe Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) monotherapy to see if your nuts have anything left. Keep in mind your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose is most likely going to be 100-200mg a week. So if you think that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is just a way to get all the testosterone you want you are wrong lol.

 

[Nitszo]

344 total test is low. It appears you are already shut down. Maybe your doc will prescribe Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) monotherapy to see if your nuts have anything left. Keep in mind your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose is most likely going to be 100-200mg a week. So if you think that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is just a way to get all the testosterone you want you are wrong lol.

Are you sure 344 is low in nmol/L range?
On the sheet it says anything beyond 190 - 800 is normal.. and the doctor said my testosterone was normal this time too (in acceptable ranges)
but I am seeing an endo next week about it, I have waited 3months so he better be good.
The fact is, i am going to be running more cycles, and i really cant be bothered with my own natural testosterone any-more its really pathetic being this low, I feel screwed all the time.

 

[cjw2021]

I would think if you are mr. jr pro bodybuilder cycler you would know that 344 is a low testosterone level for a male, regardless of if it is in some reference range that 90 year old males apply to.

 

[fedmax123]

Yeah bro thank you very much.
Its messing me up mentally too bro, I'm really depressed about it.
I'm running stupid ass cycles to try and gain and ill probably end up worse then ever from it..
Seeing an Endo shortly, i really want a way to just shut down my HPTA for a day or two and come up as low on the tests so i can get TRT.. any ideas lol?

Come with me young buck... I will lead the way!! pm me

 

[Nitszo]

I would think if you are mr. jr pro bodybuilder cycler you would know that 344 is a low testosterone level for a male, regardless of if it is in some reference range that 90 year old males apply to.

Thank you very much man, you have been great help. Reps to everyone!!

Come with me young buck... I will lead the way!! pm me

Message Sent!

 

[Bullseye Forever]

Yeah bro thank you very much.
Its messing me up mentally too bro, I'm really depressed about it.
I'm running stupid ass cycles to try and gain and ill probably end up worse then ever from it..
Seeing an Endo shortly, i really want a way to just shut down my HPTA for a day or two and come up as low on the tests so i can get TRT.. any ideas lol?

brother,let me think about it a little and talk with a doctor friend of mine and i will get back with you asap!!!!just hang in there brother

 

[MonsterMedic]

Are you sure 344 is low in nmol/L range?
On the sheet it says anything beyond 190 - 800 is normal.. and the doctor said my testosterone was normal this time too (in acceptable ranges)
but I am seeing an endo next week about it, I have waited 3months so he better be good.
The fact is, i am going to be running more cycles, and i really cant be bothered with my own natural testosterone any-more its really pathetic being this low, I feel screwed all the time.

In the States anything 400 and below (Especially when Symptomatic) is considered Hypogonadal. What's your bloodwork off cycle/post-PCT?

 

[Nitszo]

Thats all my tests there.
My last test was 6weeks after Dianabol and 3weeks after PCT
I'm guessing that the PCT must have made me produce more test?

 

[MonsterMedic]

Thats all my tests there.
My last test was 6weeks after Dianabol and 3weeks after PCT
I'm guessing that the PCT must have made me produce more test?

That does appear to be the case which is a damned good thing. It means your PCT worked, at least in part. I'd recommend you try and hang in there and re-test in 1-2months. Give your body a little more time to recuperate. Once you start testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) it's a lifetime of treatment as your natural production becomes regularly suppressed and shuts down.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

That does appear to be the case which is a damned good thing. It means your PCT worked, at least in part. I'd recommend you try and hang in there and re-test in 1-2months. Give your body a little more time to recuperate. Once you start testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) it's a lifetime of treatment as your natural production becomes regularly suppressed and shuts down.

great point brother,thats what happened to me as well