Why doesn't everyone use HGH?

[SilverBackGorilla]

I may be wrong but from the reading I have been doing, it seems that plain old HGH is the real ticket for building big muscle. Why does everyone use all these other drugs? Looking to learn, not picking on anyone. Is the cost the problem? Thanks!

 

[detroitdrugzzz93]

I may be wrong but from the reading I have been doing, it seems that plain old HGH is the real ticket for building big muscle. Why does everyone use all these other drugs? Looking to learn, not picking on anyone. Is the cost the problem? Thanks!

this seems like a pretty dumb question to be honest.. but let me try and answer it for you

1. majority of the population doesn't give a shit about fitness
2. of those that do care about fitness, about 90-95% don't do steroids
3. of those that do want to use steroids, most of them are looking for fast and cheap gains, they are ones trying to take shortcuts
4. hgh is expensive
5. hgh is hard to obtain
6. hgh is not going to be the most effective tool to put on mass for individuals.
7. hgh is illegal

 

[frank.tb]

It's fuckin expensive...

 

[ryan640]

cost is really the only thing especially if you want the muscle building effect your looking at using a vial a day. 7 days a week for 6 months that is the minimum length. if you do 2.5iu you'll get lean and for that price id rather run on a tredmill for 20 min a day

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

this seems like a pretty dumb question to be honest.. but let me try and answer it for you

1. majority of the population doesn't give a shit about fitness
2. of those that do care about fitness, about 90-95% don't do steroids
3. of those that do want to use steroids, most of them are looking for fast and cheap gains, they are ones trying to take shortcuts
4. hgh is expensive
5. hgh is hard to obtain
6. hgh is not going to be the most effective tool to put on mass for individuals.
7. hgh is illegal

LoL, when I said everyone, I really meant the AAS guys, not Joe Blow on the street
Question for #6... What is the most effective tool for mass.
Reason I ask all this is my doc told me not to mess with peptides and I'd be better off running a small amount of GH.

 

[detroitdrugzzz93]

LoL, when I said everyone, I really meant the AAS guys, not Joe Blow on the street
Question for #6... What is the most effective tool for mass.
Reason I ask all this is my doc told me not to mess with peptides and I'd be better off running a small amount of GH.

don't listen to your doctor if he said running a small amount of GH is the best way to put on mass.

what is the most effective tool for mass?
that is a subjective question, depends what kind of mass you are trying to put on.

 

[Hybrid88]

LoL, when I said everyone, I really meant the AAS guys, not Joe Blow on the street
Question for #6... What is the most effective tool for mass.
Reason I ask all this is my doc told me not to mess with peptides and I'd be better off running a small amount of GH.

really? he said that? what doc?

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

really? he said that? what doc?

My family doc. He's not prescribing it but says It's safer and more effective than the peptides I was asking him about.

Hey Detroit, do you think I should go on a cycle of plain insulin like you are in your other thread? LoL!

 

[cbman2184]

Hey Detroit, do you think I should go on a cycle of plain insulin like you are in your other thread? LoL!

Definately sounds like you are not ready... especially insulin.you are playing fire and you will get burnt if you don't know what you are doing.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Dude I hate to tell you guys this. Because I have been told it myself when I was looking to find out answers about steroids and hgh and all that shit. But realistically Hgh is for a experienced bodybuilder who has been in the game for a few years and every single fucking day that guy made count towards his goal meaning perfect diet, body fat between 6% to 10%, perfect training and Knowledge that is beyond what most ever dream of knowing about steroids. Only than can you really make use of Hgh like the top guys do. I mean if your regular gym rat with a fat percentage of 12% to 16% body weight around 190 to 220 took it he will probably get a little leaner and maybe get some muscle growth. But its not going to be the day and night difference it is for a guy who is around 6 to 8 percent body fat and weighs around 200 pounds. Until you get under 10 % body fat and depending on you height your weight should be around 200 pounds I would save your money and keep using steroids. Because Hgh will disappoint you same with insulin. I hate to be the barer of bad news. But only way I see a exception to this is if you are a older guy like 35 plus and your using hgh for health reasons.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Truthfully no amount of drugs can change genetics or lack of dieting or training and will power.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Whenever I talk to real bodybuilders and guys who have amazing crazy physiques this is what they tell me. What I just told you guys. Lol and they did not tell me nicely. I have a pretty good physique but still a real body builder would laugh at me saying im a bodybuilder I cant really hold that tittle tell I walk around at 200 pounds under 10% even while bulking.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

Nuff said. My insulin only comment was just poking fun at Detroit. He said my question was stupid but was asking questions about doing an insulin only cycle in his own thread.

I'm just cruising on 200mg of test and some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) right now but I want to learn more for later. You are correct that I am not ready, I am nowhere near the BF percentages you mentioned and probably never will be.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

BTW Mad Scientist, I'm 43 if that helps. Weigh about 290, 6'3" flat bench workout with about 250lbs. Just giving you an idea of my stats.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I mean your at the age where your natural hgh is lower It would benefit you to use some like 3 to 4 ius in pharmaceutical grade hgh. But I don't think they prescribe it any more legally. And it is ungodly expensive to run hgh that is pharmacy grade lol even if you happen to be selling coke it would still be a price tag you would think twice about. Lol But 200mgs a week is testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels. I recommend you get blood tests done and find out where your natural levels are before you do something like 200mgs a week because all that is going to do is shut down your natural testosterone.

 

[Mad- scientist]

A normal cycle to start with should be test E at 500mgs a week Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week at 250 ius per shot and arimadex every other day at .50 to .75 mgs and than pct being nolva and clomid for 4 weeks to 6 weeks.

 

[Mad- scientist]

At the age you are at it is going to be harder to recover from a steroid cycle. So you are flipping the coin more and hoping that you do not end up on testosterone replacement therapy for life. So get your testosterone levels checked before cycling. And also make sure cholesterol and blood pressure and liver enzymes and kidney function are good to go before cycling. It is always smart to be safe.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

I shoulda been more clear, I am on TRT. My natty test was 165. Just had new blood work done today and still working on getting dialed in. Like I had said, my HGH interest was just piqued with what the doctor said and really no more. After I level off my test levels I will be running a starter cycle much like you posted. I already have a good surplus of test cyp and arimadex. Thanks for your time and help.

P.S. already running 250iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week.

 

[halfwit]

Price is my only deterrent. There are many benefits associated with HGH, but as it costs as much as a used car for 6 months worth - that's off my menu for awhile.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

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