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[meatmonkey]

Sorry

I just found their lyophilized IGF-1 LR3. Is that the "better" of igf products in your opinion? All other opinions encouraged as well. Thanks

 

[budgismuggler]

lyophilized in layman's terms means it simply comes in a freeze dried powdered form. Its got nothing to do with recombinant IGF as such and would be comparing Apples to the process of making apple juice.!

 

[juced_porkchop]

Juiced, I'm interested in rui's igf des. I'm a long time hgh user, but am new to peptides. I've read that pinning 20mcg of lrIGF-1 post workout i.m. Post workout is the way to go, but am curious about this:
rui-products.com/peptides/igf-des-1mg-149.html
Is this a better way to go than the lrIGF-1? Last, what do you recommend for mixing it, and dosing? Thanks!

Sorry

I just found their lyophilized IGF-1 LR3. Is that the "better" of igf products in your opinion? All other opinions encouraged as well. Thanks

I rec IGF1 Des OR LR3 1-2hrs after workouts on workout days, and around the same time on off days.
here is a thread i made on peptides you might find interesting if you are new to peptides> http://www.steroidology.com/forum/p...practical-use-surrounding-them-must-read.html

All the powdered peptides are freeze dried as far as i know. I am not sure why its only mentioned for the LR3. but regardless I would not say lr3 or Des is better than the other.
I recommend both of them really. I almost see them as testp vs. teste sort of thing ( of course this is a generalization).
For des i rec 2x a day ( say 15-20mcg 2x a day = 30-40mcg total per day) where as for lr3 i would rec 1x a day for a total dose of 30-60mcg a day.
If you want to avoid pinning then go for Lr3, if you dont mind then go for Des 2x a day dosing,. you can dose Des 1x a day, but i feel 2x a day is optimal personally.

Hope that helps a bit.
Ohh and i rec cycles anywhere from 4-8 weeks at a time IMO.

 

[budgismuggler]

Ive been corresponding with a TB4 (TB500) supplier / producer who tells me that 1mg vial of Human TB4 (Hu TB4 >97%) would cost upwards of US$2000.! so how come every supplier sells 2 - 5mg of TB4 for much much less than that ?
Chemical synthesis ?

 

[meatmonkey]

I rec IGF1 Des OR LR3 1-2hrs after workouts on workout days, and around the same time on off days.
here is a thread i made on peptides you might find interesting if you are new to peptides> steroidology.com/forum/peptide-science/628973-peptides-tissue-growth-protection-practical-use-surrounding-them-must-read.html

All the powdered peptides are freeze dried as far as i know. I am not sure why its only mentioned for the LR3. but regardless I would not say lr3 or Des is better than the other.
I recommend both of them really. I almost see them as testp vs. teste sort of thing ( of course this is a generalization).
For des i rec 2x a day ( say 15-20mcg 2x a day = 30-40mcg total per day) where as for lr3 i would rec 1x a day for a total dose of 30-60mcg a day.
If you want to avoid pinning then go for Lr3, if you dont mind then go for Des 2x a day dosing,. you can dose Des 1x a day, but i feel 2x a day is optimal personally.

Hope that helps a bit.
Ohh and i rec cycles anywhere from 4-8 weeks at a time IMO.

Outstanding! I greatly appreciate the advice! I did forget to ask, I'm using hgh @ 2iu's/day. Would you believe the addition of the IGF-1 LR3 at 30mcg/ day to be a good idea or not? Thanks again

 

[Rick88k]

Anyone know anything about follistatin 315 ?

 

[nativediver]

This is a good read!

It could be important to differentiate which peptides do not "have" to be recombinant. For instance, I ordered RUI peptides recently, but some of the things I want, they don't make. Their CJC 1295 and 1293 are both with DAC and I don't want DAC bec of GH bleed and bec I want the pulse of GH for my research.

I either need another recombinant supplier or need to know if synthesized will work.

Does anyone know.

Thanks for your work on this Juiced!

 

[AGtrain]

Great info!

 

[JimiThing]

This is a good read!

It could be important to differentiate which peptides do not "have" to be recombinant. For instance, I ordered RUI peptides recently, but some of the things I want, they don't make. Their CJC 1295 and 1293 are both with DAC and I don't want DAC bec of GH bleed and bec I want the pulse of GH for my research.

I either need another recombinant supplier or need to know if synthesized will work.

Does anyone know.

Thanks for your work on this Juiced!

You need to use their Sermorelin. It is a true Mod 1-29 w//o dac.

 

[jozifp103]

Just gonna bump this old thread and say that I just got bloods taken today about an hour after 60 mcg igf-1 lr3 shot. The company "claims" it's recombinant. It was about 1/3 the price of rui if that matters at all.

My question is, even if it's not actually recombinant igf, will it still show up on blood tests as igf-1? And if so (roughly) where should my levels be at? I'm sure everyone's different but a rough estimation would be great.

 

[BreadTree]

Hi Porkchop, I get peptides(all 2 of them) from a place which makes no mention of this sort of thing. Their IGF-1, I'm not sure about at this point, but their Melanotan 2 definitely works. It costs about 1/3rd that of RUI Melanotan. I have ordered from both companies, so I'm wondering why the disparity in this area. There could be a bunch of theories here.


I may get 1 vial of IGF from RUI, just to see if their is a noticeable difference.

 

[Mprtz]

Just gonna bump this old thread and say that I just got bloods taken today about an hour after 60 mcg igf-1 lr3 shot. The company "claims" it's recombinant. It was about 1/3 the price of rui if that matters at all.

My question is, even if it's not actually recombinant igf, will it still show up on blood tests as igf-1? And if so (roughly) where should my levels be at? I'm sure everyone's different but a rough estimation would be great.

No personal experience, but I recall moppy's claim (which seemed convincing) was that without the protein folding produced by recombinant methods, the peptide would have no biologic activity at all.

 

[bonexyster]

With dac definitely has its advantages. The reason a person has to increase thier growth hormone dosage is the body quits producing gh and becomes somewhat tolerant of the synthetic gh. You could pulse natural gh every day with multiple shots of peptides and add a lot more money to the cycle. Or.....take a shot of Cjc with dac every 3 day cause a bleed you'll never build a great deal of tolerance to the gh.
Everything sold has a purpose.

 

[juced_porkchop]

No personal experience, but I recall moppy's claim (which seemed convincing) was that without the protein folding produced by recombinant methods, the peptide would have no biologic activity at all.

For many peps this IS definitely the case. you end up using peps that wont do a thing ig not careful and get ones that are made properly.
always gotta do your research and never accept without thinking for self.

 

[iron-game]

Very good information thanks

 

[juced_porkchop]

Very good information thanks

You are very welcome

 

[JimiThing]

Glad this got bumped, its an awesome thread and i get many pms where I have to explain this.
Great Post/thread juced!

 

[juced_porkchop]

This is a good read!

It could be important to differentiate which peptides do not "have" to be recombinant. For instance, I ordered RUI peptides recently, but some of the things I want, they don't make. Their CJC 1295 and 1293 are both with DAC and I don't want DAC bec of GH bleed and bec I want the pulse of GH for my research.

I either need another recombinant supplier or need to know if synthesized will work.

Does anyone know.

Thanks for your work on this Juiced!

get MOD grf (1-29) in place of cjc as a good option.

np your all welcome, happy if it helps someone

 

[juced_porkchop]

Bump, been getting alot of questions so bumping a few of my threads.