Why should one wait until they've reached their "genetic potential" before using AAS?

Drveejay11

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Why should one wait until they've reached their "genetic potential" before using AAS?

This was an awesome post by Zen42 at CEM answering this question...

For some it’s about pride and paying dues. Many have shed sweat and blood, persevered through injury and personal sacrifice to build a physique few people will ever achieve. It’s disconcerting to see a newbie walk, take a few pills and then believe they are on the same level. Hard core lifting is more than just knowing and taking the right pharmacology.

For most of us it’s a genuine concern for the newbie. It takes more than gear to get exceptional results.

Before starting you should know your goals...are you looking to increase your strength, improve your looks, become famous, help your career, improve health, improve your self-esteem, get big, get approval or for protection (physical or mental)? The answer to that question determines the paths that are appropriate for you.

Every BODY is different. Do you know how your body acts and reacts? How many calories does it take for you to maintain? What food and feeding schedule can you tolerate? How much water do you need to drink? How much sleep do you need and how much good sleep can you get? What parts of your body respond to higher reps? What parts respond better to lower reps? How many sets give you the best results? What split works best? How many rest days do you need? What medical conditions do you have to adjust for? What exercises work for you and which ones don't? Do you know how to treat your injuries? Do you know how tell if you’re injuring yourself?

Then there are the things that only time and experience can give you: The skill of using dedication and determination to achieve long term goals. The knowledge that you can push yourself past limits, some you didn't even know you had. The experience and knowledge on how to use the equipment properly. The strength to adhere to STRICT form during your lifts. The strength to not give into ego and risk hurting yourself. The strength to adhere to a training program. The knowledge to know when its time to back off and the knowledge to know when to press on. The strength to acknowledge your weaknesses and the wisdom to adjust for them. The knowledge and respect of the dangers of impatience. Additionally, time in the gym gives your bones, tendons and ligaments a chance to strengthen in order to handle the loads additional muscle will require.

By taking the time to learn what your body requires to grow, learning your limitations and strengths, identifying your true goals and developing the skills in the weight room you give yourself the best chance to use steroids successfully.

If you don't do this prep work you put yourself at risk. By not knowing your body, it'll take you longer to realize you need to adjust your dosages. Failing to eat, drink and rest properly will limit your gains. A lack of dedication and determination will waste your effort. An ill prepared body is more prone to soft tissue damage. An ill-informed user is far more likely to use steroids that are wrong for the wanted goal. A person with a weak ego will put themselves at greater risk in and out of the weight room. An inexperienced lifter will be slower to recognize the positive and negative effects of their steroids and not know how to make the appropriate adjustments. An ill-informed lifter will waste a ton of money and possibly a portion of their health.

Steroids offer benefits and risks. Surprisingly little is truly known about how they really work, their interactions and their long-term effects. If a 'newbie' takes the time to develop their base and their knowledge they have a high chance of successfully using steroids to achieve their goals. If they take this time they will be able to take pride in knowing that it really was them that achieved their goals, not what was in the pill or in the syringe.

One thing is certain…you know less than you think you know. (That’s true for all of us.)

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Re: Why should one wait until they've reached their "genetic potential" before using AAS?

One thing is certain…you know less than you think you know. (That’s true for all of us.)






Great post Doc,
and especially the last line. I've learned the most when I accepted that I didn't know shit. I'm not talking about false humility.
It's like the Zen people that talk about "beginner's mind", which is a good and desirable state in which to be; if there's partial emptiness there, then there's room for more to come in.
If I think I know it all, there's no room for ANY new information.
 
If some people knew everything they wouldnt be on these boards. There are some very intelligent people on here, such as Nandi, Andy13, Macro, etc, yet they stay on, and still learn. Most of us will never wait till were at our genetic potential, besides, how do you know anyway? Do you get to that point then a voice tells you. How do you not know your gains just havent stalled? Good advice nonetheless.
 
DAWG gives this post 2 paws up , if your not dedicated enough to train for at least 2-4 years natural you wont be dedicated enough to follow your training , eating , and rest plan while on AS , or for that matter the extra work and planning needed post cycle to keep your precious new found gains
 
I most likley didnt wait til my genetic potential, but still feel justified. Feel free to debate this, im open to a rebuttle.

I started my first cycle 2 months before my 20th birthday, which was in Feb. I am currently off. I feel and have also been told by many vets of the bodybuilding game that i am very knowlegable for my age, more than most people theyv ever met. I dont answer many questions on here because i dont feel i have the experience and track record to be taken seriously, although most of the time i know the right responses. To make a long story short, i am ahead of my time. I never worry about weight, and keep some of the strictest form you will see. Iv been training for 2 years, and gained 35lbs naturally in my second yr of training. If im home, im on a forum lookin stuff up n readin everything on fitness i can get a hold of. My first yr of training was spent training with the experienced bodybuilders and listening to everything they had to teach me. Im lucky to have an environment like that to work out in. So i know i train right, my diet is in check, and i get adequate rest.

I think i was ready, but theres always a different point and side of a debate.
 
Remember when you were 15, and you couldn't wait to drive? If waiting one more year wasn't bad enough, you couldn't see why 15yr old's shouldn't be able to drive.. After all, you know that YOU are responsible..

Now that you are older.. You probably wish the driving age was moved to 21...

Oh boy.. I'm going to hear it for say this..

I don't believe there is a great deal of physiological benefit in waiting until you have trained x# of years or reached some arbitrary weight before using AAS. I don't think for one second that kids should use these compounds, but I see no harm in a guy stuck at 130 hitting a cycle... Yes.. even if he has only trained for a year..

I'm not, for one second, speaking on the psychological factors involved when someone new to the gym uses AAS.. I'm not talking about the possibility that his diet, training, etc are not perfected enough for him to deserve to super supplement..

I'm merely expressing my opinion that a guy will get to his "natural limit" faster using AAS, he will be bigger than the same guy who never uses Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) (all else the same), and, when he stops working out, he will STILL be bigger than before he started..

A guy who has used Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) will still be bigger than a guy who hasn't.. And if not, at least he'll still retain those over-sized shoulders and/our traps that scream "steroid use." I don't know what it is.. I'm sure many know what I'm talking about.. Guys who have used Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) sometimes have this 'look' about them.. even when they are small and don't workout anymore.. maybe it's just me..

Andy
 
I say go for it too! I'm not saying when you are 16 or 17, but when you get serious!

I speak about genetic potential as a point where gear alone will not yield gains as before. At this time your food intake must increase to maintain or add muscle with each contiuing cycle. Your indiviual genetic potential is a tricky thing, as it hinges on your diet so much! You diet will dictate your gains. If you eat a lot you should bulk or grow. If you eat smaller, while still getting protien, you should cut or maintain current size.

Diet is the key. Age is just a number! If you have researched, and have dedicated yourself to training, then gear could be your next step. If you still are making gains naturally, dont use gear yet. Allow your gains to slow before throwing in the juice!
 
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