Why use HCG?

[outlawtas]

IMO some people over-use HCG. This is assuming lower, longer dose durations as oppsed to high dose, short duration.

In your average 12 week cycle, I don't really see a point in using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in the first 6-7 weeks. Isn't the point of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to get you prepped for post cycle therapy (pct)? From my experience, after experienced testicular atrophy, I need no more then 4-5 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) injections to bring me back to size.

Why not just run 250iu 2x a week for the last 5 or 6 weeks? Not only are you saving money, but there are some risks associated with running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for exteneded periods of time, which this would help minimize.

 

[right pumped]

dont wanna speak for everyone here outlaw but I'm pretty sure people run it through out as preventative matience so to speak. "cure the problem before it arises"

 

[outlawtas]

dont wanna speak for everyone here outlaw but I'm pretty sure people run it through out as preventative matience so to speak. "cure the problem before it arises"

But it's been said that over-use of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause some permanent sides.

What i'm trying to say is 5-6 weeks of 250iu would, imo, be plenty to gain back and maintain testicular size...so why bother putting extra meds in your body for 6 weeks along with wasting money and unecessary injections?

I still agree with a lower, longer duration Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol...but does it really have to be so long? Consider that even though you are taking HCG, it's literally useless until you come off, it's not like running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your cycle has any on-cycle benefits.

 

[cycle]

It may have some benefit if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) keeps you from shutting down your natural testosterone . This would help when your short acting test has run low and your natural test is like a backup . Although the sides effects of over use of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) may be too serious ?

 

[outlawtas]

It may have some benefit if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) keeps you from shutting down your natural testosterone .

HCG will not prevent you from being shut down. As far as I know, it only aid in maintaining testicular size, thus allowing them to recover from being shut down faster.

 

[Thoms]

But it's been said that over-use of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause some permanent sides.

That overuse refers to too high concentrations. Lower concentrations are 'safe'.

 

[outlawtas]

That overuse refers to too high concentrations. Lower concentrations are 'safe'.

From my understanding, very long, low durations of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause desensitization of the testes. Correct me if i'm wrong...

 

[bryaninnj1]

I don't know if I agree w/ the long term side effects statement unless you mean VERY long term (over 8 months) as I am on HGC as prescribed by my doctor and have been for almost 4 months now.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

From my understanding, very long, low durations of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause desensitization of the testes. Correct me if i'm wrong...

You are wrong !!

You have to look no further than Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) patients.

 

[Hacksquater]

You are wrong !!

You have to look no further than Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) patients.

Bump to keep things going and following along. I have only used HCG once, and it was 10 years ago, and did it 3 weeks after my last shot of test, or something like that. Of course folks are smarter now...

 

[outlawtas]

You are wrong !!

You have to look no further than Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) patients.

/thread then...that was mostly my reasoning for not using it a lot. I read something somewhere that said HCG can actually make you infertile, dunno if there was any truth to it or not. I see no reason not to use it throughout then.

 

[DocJ]

SWALE once described using it at the end of a cycle as "closing the barn door after the horse has already left." I know quite a few people who only use HCG during the 2-3 weeks they're waiting for the long esters to clear before starting post cycle therapy (pct). This method works for them. I tried it once and didn't notice a difference in how quickly my post cycle therapy (pct) brought things back to normal compared to running 250-300i.u. 2x/week during the whole cycle (other than my wallet was heavier .

 

[outlawtas]

That's also what I was trying to say, if you read my first post.

Are there any other benefits to running HCG during your cycle?

 

[Aztech]

shit, one bottle of 5000iu HCG is $35. This will last a ten week cycle. You're trying to only use half of it? Do you think after reconstitution day 1 that it'll be just as potent at a time almost eight months later when you want to use it again? It's $35 bucks a cycle to keep your balls at a normal size and ready for post cycle therapy (pct) at a nearly a moment's notice...you never know when you have to stop the ed shots of prop/tren because you have to leave town on a plane for a week or two.

Half of $35 bucks isn't that heavy on the wallet either.

Don't see a reason to bother but hey, if it only takes you a couple shots to get you balls back to original size, kudos.

 

[DocJ]

It's $35 bucks a cycle to keep your balls at a normal size and ready for post cycle therapy (pct) at a nearly a moment's notice...

I use the low dose throughout cycle method...mostly because I just generally "feel" better doing it that way. Especially if I'm cycling tren or nandrolone. HCG is very reasonably priced if you know where to look. Some sources REALLY jack up the price for some reason though...

 

[ManOfMuscle]

The point of hcg in my eyes is not only to keep your nuts the right size but to keep them in working order. I have never heard anything besides hearsay stating the hcg can/will shut you down if dosed low over a longer period.

 

[outlawtas]

but to keep them in working order.

This is one thing i'm not clear on...if your on cycle and using HCG are you "less" shut down then you were to not be running HCG?

 

[ManOfMuscle]

This is one thing i'm not clear on...if your on cycle and using HCG are you "less" shut down then you were to not be running HCG?

Yes, not necessarily in terms of test production, but in terms of balls doing what balls are supposed to do. At least this is my understanding.

 

[DocJ]

Yes, not necessarily in terms of test production, but in terms of balls doing what balls are supposed to do. At least this is my understanding.

Yes, you're keeping LH levels up but your boys still aren't producing test (you're still shut down) but when you start post cycle therapy (pct) with a SERM you should (in theory) recover the HPTA more quickly.

 

[outlawtas]

Yes, you're keeping LH levels up but your boys still aren't producing test (you're still shut down) but when you start post cycle therapy (pct) with a SERM you should (in theory) recover the HPTA more quickly.

Why is it important to keep LH up on cycle?