test e or c is the base of all cycles(injectable)
orals like dbol are a good way to "kickstart" a cycle (first 4 weeks 50 mgs a day for dbol)
kickstarting is because the test takes upto 5 weeks to kick in(kickin meaning you don't see any gains till week 5 or 6 with test)
oral only without test will blow you up, then shrink you down because you don't solidify any of those gains.
test only for first cycle. you want to be able to see the any side affects like gyno , severe acne, or moodswings or anthing else and know it came from the test and not from something else you introduced into your body.