Will test prop increase my weight on low cal/high cardio?

[whitegrapeape]

im in the process of a weight cut for a competition

im doing crazy amounts of hard cardio, i dont mean bodybuilder cardio on a treadmil for 30min, im mean extensive competition prep cardio for endurance.

every pound of my bodyweight counts right now because i have to be an exact weight, without even a 1lb allowance

i was going to wait until after to start my cycle, but I would like the added recovery benefits from the testosterone

my fear is that i will hop on the scale a week or 2 later and be 10lbs heavier

i've got winstrol on hand so im sure that will help a little for the water, but what do you think?

diet for the next few weeks is moderate fat, low carb, low-mid protein

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Diet dictates whether you will gain or lose, so no you won't gain weight(assuming you run a strong so to combat water weight). With an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you'll be ripped to shreds on prop if diets on point. I'd eat high protein, moderate fat, and low carbs btw. What were you planning on running the Winstrol (winny) at?

 

[whitegrapeape]

thanks for the reply man

im done spending $$ on this shit until its time for post cycle shit, so no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless there is a quality over the counter one someone can recommend

i've got enough test prop to last me 7-8 weeks but only 1 bottle on winstrol, which will last about 3 weeks if i do 25mg EOD

ive never used injectibles ever so i feel confident that low of a dose will still give me some benefits

i may go high protein as well, but when you're preparing for maximum endurance, too much protein can hinder your results just a little. not much, but it does have an effect

i have waited til the last minute to get my weight right, so i really cant afford to blow up with water and i dont know what to expect because as i said, ive never used any injectables...just some dbol and test cream lonnnng ago.

you think i can add a little strength and burn some fat over the next 3 weeks if i go 100mg eod test prop...with no AI?

 

[Truushot]

For what you want prop will be perfect. It will help with catabolism and add in some recovery for your joints. It will also help you eat a touch more efficient based on your metabolic rate. I would run 300mg/w. eod will go 300 week 1 and 400 week 2 so on and so forth. If you are killing cardio weight gain won't be a problem.

For endurance athletes check into masteron. Drostanolone. Very beneficial to a person trying to up their long high intensity enduro.

I would also look into a touch of clenbuterol. It is a bronchial dialator. It will help your wind capacity slightly as well as keeping your weight stagnate.

Good luck and let us know how you do.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

It's very much possible to add strength while losing fat if your diets spot on. I would just stick with what you have planned. You can head over to rui(sponsor) which sells legit research chems including adex and letro. I prefer letro just to eliminate all estro.

 

[whitegrapeape]

For what you want prop will be perfect. It will help with catabolism and add in some recovery for your joints. It will also help you eat a touch more efficient based on your metabolic rate. I would run 300mg/w. eod will go 300 week 1 and 400 week 2 so on and so forth. If you are killing cardio weight gain won't be a problem.

For endurance athletes check into masteron. Drostanolone. Very beneficial to a person trying to up their long high intensity enduro.

I would also look into a touch of clenbuterol. It is a bronchial dialator. It will help your wind capacity slightly as well as keeping your weight stagnate.

Good luck and let us know how you do.

cool, thanks for the reply also.

i dont know if im going to continue using, this was just an experimental thing but i will keep those others in mind. i didnt do enough research on the amount of primobolan needed, so i did get 1 legit vial of 10ML - 100mg/ml ...so i was thinking of doing low dose of 200mg/week for 5 weeks til its gone, but start it when i have 5 weeks left on my prop cycle. i know ppl say it takes weeks to notice the anabolic effects, but do you or anyone know if it could still help with red blood count/endurance during those 5 weeks?

as for clen, if its ANYTHING like ephedrine as some ppl say it is, then i'd probably die if i took it and did hard cardio. stimulants work wonders for some ppl i know but they make my heart rate way too high and give me chest pains + make me feel like i have to puke when i do hard cardio.

my friend has my prop now and should have it to me by monday, so ill start then and let everyone know how it works out. ill post as often as i can

plans are to run the prop 8 weeks, 3 weeks in start the primo and 5 weeks in start the winstrol. by 8 weeks it will all be finished then i'll start pct.

 

[whitegrapeape]

im already skeptical enough as it is putting legit drugs into my body

i dont think i have it in me to try a research chem from online...even though its probably no worse than the b.s. thats sold in over the counter products.

 

[bulldogOG]

^^^^ I understand where your coming from, but trust me (and countless # of others) RUI research co is ABSOLUTELY legit! All bottles of research liquids are professionally sealed for researcher safety and peace of mind. I'm no way affiliated with RUI, however I'm just a very satisfied researcher who will not order his research chems from any other company. Your gtg with RUI bro.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Agreed. If you're going to inject some test made in someone's kitchen more than likely, why are you so scared to take some "research chemical" made in a sterile and clean facility(factory). Just doesn't make sense... That's like ordering a whopper with a pound of fries, but drinking diet coke. Or buying a sports car with a shitty engine. Well, you get my point...

 

[Truushot]

Clem is nothing like ephedrine. If you take too much it could be but if you keep the dose low it will help with your lungs it comes in liquid form so you really control the dose. Also it is so much more efficient on the receptors than ephedrine. If it hits your receptors with a sledge hmer Clen is a tack hammer. Much much different. Remember clen is an asthma medicine.

 

[whitegrapeape]

Agreed. If you're going to inject some test made in someone's kitchen more than likely, why are you so scared to take some "research chemical" made in a sterile and clean facility(factory). Just doesn't make sense... That's like ordering a whopper with a pound of fries, but drinking diet coke. Or buying a sports car with a shitty engine. Well, you get my point...

i hear ya man but ive read some bad reviews on the RUI, even some on this site! several people said the clomid is fake and others said they had to use massive doses to get any effect. if i was going to spend $$ on a research chem, id just spend a little more and get the real thing. just like those weird legal smokes are nothing like weed, i dont expect a research chem to work too much like the real deal.

 

[whitegrapeape]

Clem is nothing like ephedrine. If you take too much it could be but if you keep the dose low it will help with your lungs it comes in liquid form so you really control the dose. Also it is so much more efficient on the receptors than ephedrine. If it hits your receptors with a sledge hmer Clen is a tack hammer. Much much different. Remember clen is an asthma medicine.

i might consider it in the future but as for now my wallet is tapped out after buying primo/winstrol/test prop all at the same time. I'm ready to get these started and dont want to spend any more $$ until im forced to with PCT.

how does it help with lungs? does it constrict blood vessels the same as ephedrine? plenty of people say makes their heart rate increase a good bit, which is terrible while doing real cardio.

 

[Truushot]

Regardless, it's important to understand what clenbuterol is. Its primary use is as a treatment for breathing disorders such as asthma both in humans and animals - though it is illegal in the UK.
It acts by opening up the bronchi (airwaves within the lungs), relieving congestion and allowing the user to breathe more easily.

The by-product of this - which makes it attractive to athletes - is that it increases oxygen flow from the lungs into the blood, improving aerobic capacity and endurance. Using clenbuterol to artificially boost performance, a cyclist can pedal faster for longer.

In addition, taking clenbuterol has the added effect of enabling athletes to more effectively convert fat into muscle. In recent years it has become a lifestyle drug, taken by bodybuilders to aid the production of muscle, or by many women seeking a miracle drug for rapid weight loss.
Risky business

The use of clenbuterol is not without risk, however. The increase in blood oxygen levels produced by the drug stimulates the production of red blood cells, which thickens the blood. This can cause huge strain on the heart as it tries to push the thicker blood around the body, and can lead to heart attacks.

 

[whitegrapeape]

that article seems to go both ways

if something causes more strain on the heart and makes it harder to pump blood, then it cant be good for endurance athletes.

im sure it can help burn fat for bodybuilders who walk a steady pace on a treadmil but it sounds just as dangerous as ephedrine for anything else.

the heart needs to function as normally as possible while doing strenuous cardio work.