winstrol and dbol as a stack

[HDV]

Hey guys

I hope all of you are well. I have a mate of mine who is quite a big boy currently weighing around 100kgs. He just finished a show a short while ago and looked pretty good. My concern here is that he doesn't really seem to do research much.

He has currently started a cycle of winstrol and dbol together. Now in my opinion if I consider the sides of these 2 compounds my concern here is that this might shut him down as no test base is being used.

Is a test base necessary with winstrol? I know dbol is not to be taken on it's own. I have read that winstrol over time can also shut you down and these 2 compounds together I would think this would maybe happen faster?

What you guys say?

 

[justin h]

Thats a ridiculous cycle, one puts water weight on (dbol) while the other tries to rid your body of water (winnie). And without test as a base....whatever gains that are had will be short lived. He's your friend right? guide him in the right direction...

 

[Jack Tors]

He will lose all his gains.

U already know the answer...hope he ran a pct

 

[R1rider]

^^ yup


he needs testosterone

TEST IS THE BASE OF ALL CYCLES

 

[brother bundy]

this aint 1970 get some test

 

[DADAWG]

Hey guys

I hope all of you are well. I have a mate of mine who is quite a big boy currently weighing around 100kgs. He just finished a show a short while ago and looked pretty good. My concern here is that he doesn't really seem to do research much.

He has currently started a cycle of winstrol and dbol together. Now in my opinion if I consider the sides of these 2 compounds my concern here is that this might shut him down as no test base is being used.

Is a test base necessary with winstrol? I know dbol is not to be taken on it's own. I have read that winstrol over time can also shut you down and these 2 compounds together I would think this would maybe happen faster?

What you guys say?

forget worrying about the test base , hes running 2 17a steroids , he should be worrying about his liver . tell your buddy to get off now for his healths sake.

 

[clsmth700]

lol was about to say the same thing he is running 2 orals, not to mention just came off cycle probably had an oral in there too, no rest for his live

 

[SquadLeader]

You need to do more research so hang around here and do just that. You need to use some form of injectable testosterone as a base.

 

[HDV]

Thanks gents for the replies!

I wanna help this mate of mine who is a work colleague but I doubt he is going to listen. Very hard headed and immature. This guy listens to what all these clowns say and stupidity is contagious!

I do research before doing anything and as said im sure his liver gonna take strain.

At the end of the day I can't make him do whatever if he doesn't wanna listen or do research for himself.

I also asked this question for my own knowledge so I know for future reference.

 

[dingox]

2 17a steroids wery bad for liver.. + all the other stuff it can do

 

[Teutonic]

winnie s useless

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey guys

I hope all of you are well. I have a mate of mine who is quite a big boy currently weighing around 100kgs. He just finished a show a short while ago and looked pretty good. My concern here is that he doesn't really seem to do research much.

He has currently started a cycle of winstrol and dbol together. Now in my opinion if I consider the sides of these 2 compounds my concern here is that this might shut him down as no test base is being used. you would still be shuit down with test base, the point of test base is to replace WHAT you have shut down (hrt) or that ALONG with being a part of the cycle (higher then Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) amounts) but shut down is still there in natty terms

Is a test base necessary with winstrol? I know dbol is not to be taken on it's own. I have read that winstrol over time can also shut you down and these 2 compounds together I would think this would maybe happen faster? maybe.... but of course BOTH would shut them down, why would they not? just about if not ALL steroid WILL shut you down. and an oral only cycle and 2 of them?? but bad cycle.

What you guys say?

In red*


what I say?

he need to do his own research on forums and science FACTS and studies,, if he does nto have the IQ (no offence) to do that then nothing you can do. some people are ment to head down a bad road no matter what others are telling them.

 

[juced_porkchop]

winnie s useless

not toally ... but yes pretty shitty and a temp (drying) effect? for bad blod levens, acky joint and weak brittle tendones with minimal to no muscle gain????.............................

yea screw winny!
I mean i guess last couple weeks up to show, but other then that its pure EGO in a pill HAHAHA

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks gents for the replies!

I wanna help this mate of mine who is a work colleague but I doubt he is going to listen. Very hard headed and immature. This guy listens to what all these clowns say and stupidity is contagious!

I do research before doing anything and as said im sure his liver gonna take strain.

At the end of the day I can't make him do whatever if he doesn't wanna listen or do research for himself.

I also asked this question for my own knowledge so I know for future reference.

Well Im happy YOU have the IQ needed to be safe and seem mature!

You cant help everyone and nothing pissis me off more then some one not willing to listin or even think for one split second MAYBE THEY are acutally for the love of god WRONG!
seen it many MANY times, from drugs to aas to just stuff...
tell him what you can, shit tell him please join this forum and read around a bit to see how wrong he is if he want to prov you wrong (might be only thing that drives him(not health obviosly).... if he wont, you did your best.


Good luck man!
I really hope he listens to SOMETHING from you.
and thanky ou for trying to help out a fellow human! we need more poeple that give a shit, just for giving a shit..

 

[Slickspurs]

Idiots like this fucking themselves up are what gives steroids a bad name. Tell him to do some fucking research.

 

[SquadLeader]

Thanks gents for the replies!

I wanna help this mate of mine who is a work colleague but I doubt he is going to listen. Very hard headed and immature. This guy listens to what all these clowns say and stupidity is contagious!

I do research before doing anything and as said im sure his liver gonna take strain.

At the end of the day I can't make him do whatever if he doesn't wanna listen or do research for himself.

I also asked this question for my own knowledge so I know for future reference.

Its always nice to help, you learn a little something yourself too sometimes.

 

[HDV]

Thanks guys for all the replies!!

Unfortunately this chap is also young which makes it worse when it comes to being mature enough to think ahead of what one is doing and should have the proper knowledge.

I personally learnt a great deal with my first cycle and I would hate to see the harmful effects that can be self inflicted from being naive.

I mean this is the type of chap that thinks proviron is used for pct simply because his connections say it is and used it that way.

A big problem here in SA is every day there are more youngsters on aas and they haven't a clue on how to do things properly. Even some of the men here are the same.

 

[SquadLeader]

Thanks guys for all the replies!!

Unfortunately this chap is also young which makes it worse when it comes to being mature enough to think ahead of what one is doing and should have the proper knowledge.

I personally learnt a great deal with my first cycle and I would hate to see the harmful effects that can be self inflicted from being naive.

I mean this is the type of chap that thinks proviron is used for pct simply because his connections say it is and used it that way.

A big problem here in SA is every day there are more youngsters on aas and they haven't a clue on how to do things properly. Even some of the men here are the same.

Thats kind of you to look out for him.

 

[HDV]

Well seems this chap is going to do his own thing so my job here is done.

Trying to talk sense to guys like this is like trying to suck cheese out of a brick.

 

[AusDealing]

double oral with counteracting effects ftw (;