DADAWG
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post your blood test results from post cycle.
Winstrol cycle 16 weeks is it safe?
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post your blood test results from post cycle.
i'm a newbie in using gear, how do i run a test and what is it for? why are you running it for 40 weeks? thanks bro.
i'm not getting any blood tests. what is it for?
DADAWG
Community Veteran
so that we can guess how long you have before your liver transplant from running oral steroids for that long.
lol
DADAWG
Community Veteran
bazulco read this
17alpha alkylated steroids
Scientists have developed several synthetic testosterone derivatives that have increased oral bioavailability. The first synthetic alteration that scientists utilized is known as 17 alpha alkylation. 17a alkylation involves the addition of an alkyl group (methyl or ethyl) to the alpha position of the 17 carbon of the steroid backbone. The alkylation at this position prevents the major route of androgen deactivation – oxidation to a 17-keto steroid - from taking place. This allows a large part of the steroid to avoid liver first pass metabolic degradation. Examples of 17a alkylated steroids are methyltestosterone and Norethandrolone (Nilevar)
While 17a alkylation is a very effective means of rendering steroids orally active, it suffers from a serious drawback. These steroids are all to some extent toxic to the liver. Some are more toxic than others, but they all have been associated with this problem. Jaundice is not completely uncommon with the usage of this stuff, although this condition is generally confined to individuals who are predisposed to liver problems. Several cases of liver cancer have supposedly been linked to 17a alkylated steroids, however, nothing definitive has been established in this regard. On the other hand, it is somewhat common to observe increases in blood test indicators of liver stress such as BSP retention, and intrahepatic cholestasis (a condition where bile clogs up and stops flowing from the liver).
While the dangers of 17a alkylated steroids are not trivial, they still comprise some of the most potent anabolic agents available, and therefore their use continues. Most smart bodybuilders are aware of the potential toxicities of these steroids, and therefore they are judicious with their use of them.
winnie and dbol are both harsh on the liver .
you weigh 145 pounds , you dont need steroids you need groceries.
17alpha alkylated steroids
Scientists have developed several synthetic testosterone derivatives that have increased oral bioavailability. The first synthetic alteration that scientists utilized is known as 17 alpha alkylation. 17a alkylation involves the addition of an alkyl group (methyl or ethyl) to the alpha position of the 17 carbon of the steroid backbone. The alkylation at this position prevents the major route of androgen deactivation – oxidation to a 17-keto steroid - from taking place. This allows a large part of the steroid to avoid liver first pass metabolic degradation. Examples of 17a alkylated steroids are methyltestosterone and Norethandrolone (Nilevar)
While 17a alkylation is a very effective means of rendering steroids orally active, it suffers from a serious drawback. These steroids are all to some extent toxic to the liver. Some are more toxic than others, but they all have been associated with this problem. Jaundice is not completely uncommon with the usage of this stuff, although this condition is generally confined to individuals who are predisposed to liver problems. Several cases of liver cancer have supposedly been linked to 17a alkylated steroids, however, nothing definitive has been established in this regard. On the other hand, it is somewhat common to observe increases in blood test indicators of liver stress such as BSP retention, and intrahepatic cholestasis (a condition where bile clogs up and stops flowing from the liver).
While the dangers of 17a alkylated steroids are not trivial, they still comprise some of the most potent anabolic agents available, and therefore their use continues. Most smart bodybuilders are aware of the potential toxicities of these steroids, and therefore they are judicious with their use of them.
winnie and dbol are both harsh on the liver .
you weigh 145 pounds , you dont need steroids you need groceries.
DADAWG
Community Veteran
thats what i assume but i dont know why a member would risk getting banned by pulling this shit.
i find it hard to believe that a person is as stupid as the original poster but then again who knows.
Nah, seems real to me. Some are just clueless as fuck, this being the worst. To the OP, Proviron is not for PCT.
thanks bro, i'm running my cycle already and it's all good. my target is 165lbs. i'm planning to stack sustanon 250 with dbol 10mg orals. 2 months after my cycle. which anti-estrogen is better nolvadex or proviron for susta-dbol cycle? thanks.
you're wrong bro, i won't waste my time f*cking up with you guys, i'd rather do some sensible things than waste my time where i can't grow or learn anything else. i'm just a newbie in using gear that's why i'm asking in here. peace bro.
pagal aadmi
New member
16 weeks? then ? 16 weeks off? really? if you can off the drugs 4 months after seeing those pumps then i must salute you...its hard to do belive me. and its harder to gain massive ammount of muscle with orals. winstrol is for the big dudes with muscle covered with little fat and water who want to inhenced the look of the body and gain some little size via increased pump .but the problem with winni is that it does not save your body much from catabolism. you got to be very very smart to gain from it.
bottem line...dont do it if you can get test or afford deca.
bottem line 2...you will do it anyway
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THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
hahahaha good luck not having a heart attack, there goes your cholesterol..................
16 weeks? then ? 16 weeks off? really? if you can off the drugs 4 months after seeing those pumps then i must salute you...its hard to do belive me. and its harder to gain massive ammount of muscle with orals. winstrol is for the big dudes with muscle covered with little fat and water who want to inhenced the look of the body and gain some little size via increased pump .but the problem with winni is that it does not save your body much from catabolism. you got to be very very smart to gain from it.
bottem line...dont do it if you can get test or afford deca.
bottem line 2...you will do it anyway
hahaha.. honestly i'm almost finished with my 4 week oral cycle before i created this thread and i'm planning to get the stanozolol injectable after it, just don't know how to use it cuz it's my first time to inject, now it is my 2nd week of injecting ilium EOD, for a total of six weeks plus the 4 week orals, this whole cycle ends on my week 10 that will be june 8th. i have great gains now. after this i'm going to rest and planning to stack sustanon-dianabol on august it is an 8 week cycle with nolvadex for 30 days while on cycle. i'm in great shape and looking better and better while on this cycle and i'm lovin' it. thanks guys.
pagal aadmi
New member
i knew...
and i understand mentality of bodybuilders.....drug addicts lol...they stop at nothing....wait for few years..you will jump from winni to test to tren to hgh to insulin to hospital
pagal aadmi
New member
yes ..winni fucks with heart and bp after 6 weeks or longer thats for sure...i have tried winni with viagra.,..pumps were amazing but my heart feeled little scared to those pumps lol
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DADAWG
Community Veteran
you continue to post and you havent learned anything . 10 weeks of winnie is bad . sustanon has long ester test and really needs 12 weeks of cycle to build up in the system.
honestly why do you come to steroid boards ? you refuse to listen to advice and have made zero effort into learing anything so why do you bother posting?
coolhandjames
I am b@nned !
OP i'm assuming your here to see what you SHOULD run>
The most sensible way would be Test E or Cyp. 500 Mgs. Every 3 Days 12-15 weeks.
These are the closest thing to our natural testosterone.
But a PCT is most needed.
The most sensible way would be Test E or Cyp. 500 Mgs. Every 3 Days 12-15 weeks.
These are the closest thing to our natural testosterone.
But a PCT is most needed.
i didn't know that.. thanks for letting me know, i'll eat clean and healthy while on this cycle and never run winnie for more than 6 weeks again ever. i'm just going to finish this cycle.
my gym mate who is novice in using gear told me to run this cycle for 12 weeks, now i'm getting confused so i just made it 10 weeks. i'll never run winnie for more than 6 weeks again ever. i'm just going to finish this cycle. i came here to know facts and opinions on how to run a cycle safely and for learning more about gear, i have great gains but i'm also thinking about my health though..and yes, i listen to your advices and i appreciate it a lot that's why i'm thanking you guys for the knowledge your giving me and for the effort in helping me.
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